Memo to UofC: stop giving these idiots so much publicity!

Oh, great. The University of Calgary has charged the campus anti-abortion club with trespassing for setting up their bugfuck nutty “Genocide Awareness Project” display on-campus:

A group of pro-life student activists are heading to court this month after the University of Calgary charged them with trespassing.

Campus Pro-Life and university administrators have been locked in an ongoing dispute over a controversial anti-abortion display called the Genocide Awareness Project, which puts images of dead fetuses next to Holocaust or Rwanda genocide victims.

On November 26, the student group went ahead with plans to erect the display against the university’s requests to turn the graphic images inward to protect those who didn’t wish to see them.

More than two months later, some of the students behind the project have been charged with trespassing and received summonses to court on Feb 27.

I can see the university’s point in not wanting the display on their property: it’s truly disgusting, with images not just of aborted fetuses, but lynchings and Holocaust victims. It’s hyperbolic and incendiary imagery; the kind of thing that might trip someone’s batshit breaker and initiate an afternoon of shooting up a women’s clinic.

But it doesn’t advocate violence, and unless it gets shoved right into peoples’ personal space, being offensive isn’t a very compelling reason to shut it down. While I recognize that what this group advocates is basically the reproductive enslavement of women, an intelligent society should be able to make this distinction and summarily dismiss such bullshit without the friendly assistance of the State Goon Squad.

However, now that Uof C has decided to go the Goon Squad route, all I can say is

STOP! Stop giving them so much publicity!!

This is exactly what they want: PERSECUTION, they thrive on it and revel in it.

The best thing to do with the campus anti-choice doucheclub is just ignore them. They’ll always be around, foaming and jibbering and waving their plastic fetuses in the background, why not just keep them there instead of making them the center of nationwide attention as censorship martyrs and giving them the persecution high they crave?

26 Responses to “Memo to UofC: stop giving these idiots so much publicity!”


  1. 1 fern hill Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 7:14 am

    *sigh* They’re shrieeeking about UofC’s fascism over at Freak Dominion.

    I agree totally, JJ. Just ignore the dumbfucks.

  2. 2 deBeauxOs Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 7:24 am

    JJ, I suspect that the UofC administrators see this rogue display as the slippery slope towards total anarchy on campus property. Soon they’ll be showing up with preserved embryos and fetus in little bottles. So they felt it necessary to put a stop to it.

    But yes, the zygote zealots are thrilled with all the attention. Watch the news, the publicity stunts will probably escalate.

  3. 3 Mike Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 7:54 am

    “Soon they’ll be showing up with preserved embryos and fetus in little bottles”

    Oh gawd, I was at the Supreme Court watching the day Joe Borowski showed up with one, trying to have it admitted into evidence.

    A better response would be for the pro-choice side to show up and shout them down, make it very obvious they aren’t welcome.

    Nothing wrong with a little anarchy as far as I’m concerned.

  4. 4 Calgal Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 7:55 am

    I am of two minds on this. Most of the time I’m with you JJ – it’s best to just ignore them. Not that they will go away, but since what they crave is to create a spectacle f themselves, at least you will not be giving them any satisfaction and they will remain marginalized.

    On the other hand, the U of C has a right to impose reasonable restrictions on events that take place on campus in the interests of student safety. The over-the-top political statement they are making with their images has and will continue to incite anger and a consequently a situation for security to deal with. Why should any institution have to put up with this year after year? Any event that is known to cause a disturbance will get similar treatment – that being, a reasonable compromise that allows them to make their albeit stupid statement and at the same time keep the peace. They defied the warning and now plan to erect the display again, thus escalating the issue by effectively kicking sand in the face of university administrators.

    I find it interesting that many of the people who support the GAP display despite its offensiveness, oppose the simple, goreless atheist statement coming soon to Calgary buses because it is offensive to Christians.

    Meanwhile, the fetusmobile roams the streets of Calgary.

  5. 5 deBeauxOs Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 8:14 am

    Gee Calgal, who knew that Calgary was such a hotspot of theological fomentation?

  6. 6 Frank Frink Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 9:06 am

    “Soon they’ll be showing up with preserved embryos and fetus in little bottles”

    No doubt they’ll argue that since the university’s Biology lab has fetal pigs in bottles or jars then, hey, why shouldn’t they be allowed their particular expression.

    Calgal, yep. A compromise agreement had been reached and the ‘club’ willfully choose to keep on ignoring it. Despite the attention a court case would generate I believe it would cause far less shrrrrrriiiieeeeekkkking than the alternative: i.e. University administration or Student Society unilaterally banning the club from presenting its displays.

  7. 7 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 10:51 am

    fern hill – As much as I might disagree with their propaganda, and the GAP is particularly disgusting propaganda, I do not want to be on the side of censorship, especially imposed with police involvement. They are the fascists, not us.

    Oy, the shrieking, I can hear it from here…

  8. 8 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 11:00 am

    deBeauxOs – As far as the slippery slope goes, you can’t go much further down the slope than the GAP and still be legal. A fetus in a jar would be illegal. If anyone showed up with something like that they would rightly be charged with improper disposal/desecration of a dead fetus (or whatever the law is called) — it’s a public health hazard. I wouldn’t be too worried about anything like that happening.

    Also, I tend to think that what makes people recoil from these nitwits is GOOD. You know how people feel about PETA: it didn’t take too many outrageous displays before they were widely written off at nuts. Let the same thing happen to anti-choicers.

  9. 9 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Mike

    A better response would be for the pro-choice side to show up and shout them down, make it very obvious they aren’t welcome.

    Exactly. Or how about just fencing off the area and re-routing pedestrian traffic so that if someone wants to see the display, they can make an effort to find a way in to see it, but it doesn’t have to be in the face of every visitor to the university? That seems like a reasonable compromise, IMO.

    The anti-choicers still would scream about it ;) but they at least couldn’t scream about being crushed under the Jackboot of Censorship.

  10. 10 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Calgal

    On the other hand, the U of C has a right to impose reasonable restrictions on events that take place on campus in the interests of student safety. The over-the-top political statement they are making with their images has and will continue to incite anger and a consequently a situation for security to deal with.

    Yeah, I can see the university’s concern with security and it is valid — what if it tripped someone’s breaker and started the bullets flying, these people are half-nuts anyway and looking at displays like this wouldn’t add to their mental equilibrium. But IMO there has to be a pretty clear and present danger caused by the display to justify shutting it down, and that just isn’t the case. I disagree that a university is not the place for over-the-top political statements — if not a university, supposedly a hotbed of free thought, then where?

    I look at it this way: if it were a Students-for-PETA demonstration, or Earth First, or a “9/11 Truth” display, etc etc, I would also support it, even though I don’t agree with most of those things either. But they still have a right to their say, however idiotic it might be.

    Much as the thought of these little assholes packing up their display might amuse me, I’d rather it was done because they found that they were wasting their time, not having the desired effect on people, and nobody gave a shit.

    I find it interesting that many of the people who support the GAP display despite its offensiveness, oppose the simple, goreless atheist statement coming soon to Calgary buses because it is offensive to Christians.

    Absolutely. Which is why we should be staying on the side of free speech. THEY are the fascists, not us.

    These little scumbags pushed their luck because they were hoping something like this would happen. The university should fence them off and ignore them, not play into their hands by calling in the law.

    That said, I’m making a call based on what I read in the news — I’m not there and I don’t know what’s really going on there.

  11. 11 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 11:47 am

    FF – The story is that they were told to face the display inwards, which is a perfectly reasonable request given the gory nature of it. They refused. Now the university is giving them exactly what they want: martyrdom, and the will to carry on with what they’re doing.
    So I don’t know how constructive this is. Now it looks like the pro-choice side is the fascists, the censors, the thought police, etc etc., when obviously they are the nazis (who want to curtail women’s rights).

    OTOH, they are being a real pain in the ass to the university, and it is private property, maybe a security issue, so it’s easy to see where the university is coming from: they’re probably going ENOUGH ALREADY. But I still think marginalizing these idiots is preferable to censoring them. Put up a fence and let them scream.

  12. 12 Frank Frink Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 11:49 am

    I’m not sure fencing them off would work. Appears they’ve repeatedly and willfully ignored and disrespected agreed upon boundaries to date. I can’t see a fenced off arrangement stopping them from doing it again.

  13. 13 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 11:58 am

    FF – Well, there has to be a limit as to where they can set up this display. If it’s fenced off and they move it outside the fence, I’d say then they’re trespassing. But there has to be some way to deal with it without calling in the law.

    If they’re being that big of a pain in the ass to the university, the university should just revoke their club status: No club status, no right to hold a display. I must be missing something here, because it seems like there are a lot of straightforward solutions before censoring these idiots.

    If it was up to me, I’d just go there some night with a gascan and a zippo. Problem solved :P KIDDING! (Oh, christ, I can hear the shrieeeeking…)

  14. 14 Frank Frink Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    No club status, no right to hold a display.

    Thought of that, too, but that’s also a road to more shriiiiieeeeeeeking and ‘martyrdom’.

    ’tis a tough one indeed.

  15. 15 fern hill Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Short of a jerry can and a zippo — KIDDING! — it seems to me it’s either the way UofC handled it or let it happen. They want to be martyrs . . .

  16. 16 lwestin Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    I’m not quite sure how this story linked to mine, but I’m guessing from the level of dialogue here that I’m older than this crowd.(Yes, that’s ageism. Sue me.)

    I find it incredible that in this day and age there can remain so much ignorance about scientific reality. Humanity begins at conception. Even Planned Parenthood no longer disputes that fact. For people that care about humanity, this is the crucial point. For people who care about themselves first and foremost, the reality of humanity is an incidental, the importance of which is mitigated by the circumstances of convenience and personal benefit.

    People who put themselves in the public eye, knowing that they will be attacked by those who are ignorant and uncaring, do so for one reason only. To save humanity. There is nothing in it for them.

    Anyone who wishes to hear it from ‘the horses mouth’ should listen to Dr. Bernard Nathanson, the founder of NARAL , the primary moving force behind the prominence of abortion in American society today.

    I would suggest his very graphic and detailed video “Silent Scream” which can be found at my site, and also on YOUTUBE.

    Canada is pretty far gone these days as far as self-centered indifference to humanity goes. Reading the responses on this site is not at all encouraging.

  17. 17 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    :lol: Let me load up that zippo with lighter fluid…

    Making them martyrs doesn’t help us. Things like the GAP project are actually more helpful to pro-choicers, because they show the anti-choice movement’s true nature and people recoil from it.

    Even some of the anti-choicers at prowomanprolife don’t like the GAP project — it’s exactly the opposite of the non-extremist image they’re trying to sell. (Good luck with that.)

  18. 18 fern hill Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Well, I recognize that their lying and disgusting images will provoke the sane people and that UofC justifiably fears some kind of melee. So, let it happen. Then, next time, UofC can say: ‘We’re not letting that happen again’.

    Hey, lwestin, you psychic or something? You don’t know anything about the people here.

  19. 19 Frank Frink Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    lwestins says: but I’m guessing from the level of dialogue here that I’m older than this crowd.(Yes, that’s ageism. Sue me.)

    Well, if you are, as your blogger profile indicates, 47-years old you’re obviously still young enough to quickly jump to conclusions and make assumptions that are most likely to be erroneous.

    Although you are probably correct in one respect, most of us are probably younger than you in spirit if not in body. ;-)

  20. 20 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    lwestin – Some of us are your age or older (at least chronologically). What’s your point?

    I find it incredible that in this day and age there can remain so much ignorance about scientific reality. Humanity begins at conception.

    “Humanity” can certainly start in a petri dish, but a “human person” as an individual starts at birth.

    For people who care about themselves first and foremost, the reality of humanity is an incidental, the importance of which is mitigated by the circumstances of convenience and personal benefit.

    Women should submit to biological reproduction imperatives for “the greater good”, whether they want to or not, is that it? Um no, not in this century.

    Anyone who wishes to hear it from ‘the horses mouth’ should listen to Dr. Bernard Nathanson, the founder of NARAL , the primary moving force behind the prominence of abortion in American society today.

    Nathanson? Are you kidding me?? The same Bernard Nathanson who advocates killing doctors who are about to perform abortions? Get fucking serious. Nathanson, his propaganda, and his high-profile career on the anti-abortion speaking engagement circuit (where he raises 1000s of $$$ from rubes like you who go to hear him reinforce their own whacked-out beliefs) — totally bogus.

  21. 21 Chimera Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    lwestin, if you are, indeed, only 47 years old, then I am old enough to be your parent, so don’t you dare go all holy and self-righteous here!

    “To save humanity.”
    :lol:

    When the level of the world population dips down below one billion, then, maybe it might be time to promote the idea that more people should breed. You’re not after saving the humanity. You’re after imposing your personal ideology on those who want nothing to do with it.

  22. 22 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    chimera

    You’re after imposing your personal ideology on those who want nothing to do with it.

    A fetus fetishist who wants to impose their personal ideology on others!?? Say it ain’t so!!!

  23. 23 mouthyorange Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    “I’m guessing from the level of dialogue here that I’m older than this crowd.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!

  24. 24 JJ Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    :lol: :lol:
    Thanks orange, I just snorted coffee up my nose

  25. 25 Mike Wednesday, February 4, 2009 at 7:28 am

    “Even Planned Parenthood no longer disputes that fact.”

    Really? REALLY? Where? Link? Evidence?

    Sweet Jebus, when will you ignorant twits stop lying?

    “To save humanity.”

    Chimera, lwestin made a slight typo there. After all, with the world’s population having doubled in my lifetime and expected to be over 9 billion by 2020, my guess is lwestin meant to say

    “To save white humanity.”

    Makes more sense that way…

  26. 26 JJ Wednesday, February 4, 2009 at 9:15 am

    Mike – Yes, that’s no doubt the correct translation. After all, white humanity is in jeopardy… the demographic winter… the brown hordes… SHRIEEEEEEK!

    Lwestin is a particularly dishonest fetus fetishist, she uses even more hyperbole than SUZANNE. “Obama and the Culture of Death!!!”

    YAWN!!!


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