Aborting Health Care reform (or “Why Bart Stupak Should Be Savagely Violated With A Rusty Coat Hanger”)

AllUrUterusRbelong2usLast night after 12 hours of feverish debate, our neighbours to the south finally got the health care reform they’ve been waiting (and in some cases, dying) for.   In spite of overwhelming public support for the public option included in the bill, the vote was a squeaker:

The U.S. House of Representatives narrowly passed a massive health care reform bill late Saturday, legislation that, if enacted, will extend coverage to tens of millions Americans who are currently uninsured.

The bill passed with a 220-215 vote tally and will now head to the Senate for what will no doubt be more heated debate.

But after months of wingnut gibberish and incoherent fury at town hall meetings and teabagging parties, it wasn’t the GOP that almost scuttled the health care bill , it was the Democratic Party’s own wingnuts, the notorious “Blue Dog” caucus.

Led by C-Street fetus fetishist Rep. Bart Stupak, the Blue Dogs refused to support the bill unless Stupak’s creepy and draconian anti-abortion amendment was added.  And dig this:  to make sure the amendment was sufficiently punishing, Stupak ran  it by some Catholic bishops for approval — NO, I’m not kidding. Because all amendments dealing with womens’ reproductive issues should be okay’d by a bunch of old men who’ve never even gotten laid, let alone pregnant.  If the wall between church and state is crumbling, it’s simultaneously finding new life as the wall between women and access to abortion, thanks to Bart Stupak.

There is, however, a bright side to all this.  Like the notorious Rick Santorum before him, Stupak’s anti-abortion fetish has earned him a place in the Urban Dictionary:

Urban Dictionary: stupak_1257742592105

 

27 Responses to “Aborting Health Care reform (or “Why Bart Stupak Should Be Savagely Violated With A Rusty Coat Hanger”)”


  1. 1 Torontonian Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    A president once said that the business of America is business.

    Big Insurance and Big Pharma will see to it that universal
    health care dies.

    In the nation where equal rights for women was not allowed to
    pass into law, comes the death of health care.

    All because of big business. Big business owns America.

    There’s simply no other way of saying it.

  2. 2 Sue J Monday, November 9, 2009 at 9:40 am

    It’s shocking and disgusting that so many Democrats sold us out on this.

  3. 3 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Torontonian

    Big Insurance and Big Pharma will see to it that universal health care dies.

    If the bill gets past the senate, I don’t know that there’s much they can do to kill it, but they probably have a Plan B already worked out. Maybe by somehow starving the public option of healthy patients (by making private policies more attractive to them)? We’ll see…

  4. 4 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 10:28 am

    Sue J – At least now you guys know who needs to be primaried ;)

    I’m just guessing, but I doubt that the coathanger amendment will make onto the final bill. Stupak apparently said he didn’t even care if the amendment was voted down — as long as it got a vote, he considered his job done and he would support the health care bill. That might mean that the whole thing was just a show to placate the dumb anti-choicers, and hopefully the amendment will be changed later.

    I have to say it’s interesting and in some ways horrifying to watch the US health care debate from the safe distance of a country where universal health care is considered a right, and abortion is strictly between a woman and her doctor (Canada has no abortion law at all). Egads.

  5. 5 toujoursdan Monday, November 9, 2009 at 11:18 am

    All this nuttery is due to the fact that if universal healthcare passes and society doesn’t collapse (like it did in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France and Sweden… oh wait… *confused*) and some of the worst aspects of the current American healthcare system are fixed (even imperfectly) the Republican raison d’être will be dead.

    They won’t be able to put the genie back into the bottle and argue that government is the enemy. They won’t have much to run on in 2010 or 2012 either.

    So if I was a Republican I would be hysterical too.

    It’s going to be flawed bill but the flaws, including the abortion law, can be fixed later. Insurance companies pay for abortions now. There is no reason a public plan can’t either.

  6. 6 Jasper Monday, November 9, 2009 at 11:39 am

    “Stupak apparently said he didn’t even care if the amendment was voted down — as long as it got a vote, he considered his job done and he would support the health care bill.”

    Nope. Why would he go through all of this trouble.

    That bill will never pass if it funds baby killing. World war 3 will start.

  7. 7 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    toujoursdan

    All this nuttery is due to the fact that if universal healthcare passes and society doesn’t collapse (like it did in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France and Sweden… oh wait… *confused*) and some of the worst aspects of the current American healthcare system are fixed (even imperfectly) the Republican raison d’être will be dead.

    Right you are. The GOP isn’t just fighting healthcare, they’re fighting for their political life.

    It’s significant that of all the countries with universal healthcare, not one of them has ditched it and gone back to a completely private, American-style system. The evidence clearly shows that once the system is put in place and people start using it, they like it.

    This of course would be a devastating blow to the GOP, since they’ve never even tried to implement such a system, choosing instead to back corporate interests against the best interests of the average citizen. Bill Clinton tried and they managed to kill it that time because it was in an election year. That’s why the Dems are so anxious to pass it quickly — if people are using the public option and liking it a year from now, the GOP can look forward to even more losses in 2010, and being wiped off the electoral map in 2012.

    These are interesting times in the USA…

  8. 8 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Jasper

    Nope. Why would he go through all of this trouble.

    :lol: You’re really naive.

    He did it to placate the anti-choice dummies, it was a big show for their benefit. He did his part, got his stupid amendment to a vote, so even if it had been voted down, he could still say “Well, I tried” and his political skin would be saved (not to mention his anti-choice revenue stream).

    World war 3 will start.

    Well, get your helmet on then Jasper, because Stupak’s amendment won’t make it out of committee. Bet on it.

  9. 9 Dr. Prole Monday, November 9, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    LOL if World War 3 starts because of the Stupak amendment being bounced, Jasper will be squarely on the same side as the Taliban and al Qaeda. I wonder what they’ll talk about in the trenches besides how many goats their daughters might be worth.

  10. 10 RealityBites Monday, November 9, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    World War 3? You people couldn’t even elect a congressman!

  11. 11 Torontonian Monday, November 9, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    To quote toujours Dan:

    the Republican raison d’être will be dead.
    ——-

    So, the Republicans are fighting for their
    collective life.

    That means they’ll join the flat-earthers
    and other lunatic fringe groups. Not that they
    aren’t working their way there now. Not by
    a long shot. They’ve been flying apart since
    around a year ago.

  12. 12 toujoursdan Monday, November 9, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Well I think that’s going to happen anyway. The current GOP represents a part of the population that is fading quickly: middle age and older White people. They succeeded by exploiting racial animosities – [black welfare queens, Mexican immigrants, scary Mooslems, etc.], but Americans are less racist than they used to be, so that wedge is fading fast.

  13. 13 Jasper Monday, November 9, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    The ‘coat-hanger’ argument is an old lie that doesn’t carry any weight. What kind of mental case would stick a coat-hanger up her vagina to kill a baby.

  14. 14 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Jasper

    What kind of mental case would stick a coat-hanger up her vagina to kill a baby.

    A desperate 16-year old girl who’s afraid of her parents finding out she’s pregnant, that’s what kind. I knew one of them in high school. She died of infection from a perforated uterus.

    Look, you are welcome to have your opinion about abortion, but you don’t get to have your own facts. Women have used coat hangers and all manner of sharp objects and poisons to terminate pregnancies since the beginning of time.

  15. 15 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    toujoursdan – And now the Teabaggers have started their own official political party in Florida.

    This can’t be good news for the GOP :shock: FLORIDA, of all places, one of the most important states for winning elections. However, it might be good news for GOP moderates if they want to clean house of all the NUTS… unfortunately half of them are nuts, too (see Bachmann, Michele).

  16. 16 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Torontonian – Now that the teabaggers have formed their own Teabagger Party, they might go national and then… who knows? Will the GOP go with them? Stay tuned :shock:

  17. 17 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    RB

    World War 3? You people couldn’t even elect a congressman!

    The discrepancy between image and reality :lol:

  18. 18 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    Dr.Prole

    if World War 3 starts because of the Stupak amendment being bounced, Jasper will be squarely on the same side as the Taliban and al Qaeda.

    This is an uncomfortable reality that none of them ever address. As theocrats, the Christian right shares a lot with the Taliban. Sure, they aren’t blowing themselves up… YET.

  19. 19 flex Monday, November 9, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    The abortion question should not even be raised, it is a choice every woman have the right to make. Aware of the situation in the US, so no need tell me that it is an issue there.
    This will be killed in the senate in my opinion.
    I can see the insurance companies being the big losers if this actually go through, but Big Pharma will not be such a big loser.
    They do very well in every country which have any type of socialized medicine.
    Our system was great once upon a time but the service is on a steady decline and do not see any indication that it will slow down any time soon. The e health scandal is just a tip of the iceberg.

  20. 20 JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    flex – Exactly, it’s a medical procedure so it should be between patient and doctor and that should be where it ends. It’s disturbing to see how much drag the theocrats have in the US government when personal issues like abortion take up so much of the government’s time in debate and passing bullshit laws — and it’s not just abortion but several issues the state has no place sticking its nose in (ie. drugs.)

    As for our system, it seems to vary by province — we have outstanding health care in BC, but in Ontario it’s not that great (I have experience with both). No Death Panels, though ;) IMO, we might be better-served by a hybrid system like they have in Europe.

  21. 21 Mandos Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 1:19 am

    I think it’s telling that Jasper can’t imagine that level of desperation.

  22. 22 flex Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 7:41 am

    “JJ Monday, November 9, 2009 at 7:53 pm
    As for our system, it seems to vary by province — we have outstanding health care in BC, but in Ontario it’s not that great (I have experience with both). No Death Panels, though ;) IMO, we might be better-served by a hybrid system like they have in Europe.”

    Should have made it clearer that my comment was about the health care in Ontario for the simple reason of not knowing enough about health related situations in other Provinces to really make a meaningful comment on it.
    What I do see here in Ontario is a nose dive from what it was.
    The only bright side I can really see is the improvements in technology in the medical field.

  23. 23 GeorgeRic Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    The mechanical success of our civilization has led many to basic materialism. Are western men divided into those humanists who think that there is ‘only this material world’ and those who believe in a spiritual world ? Humanists now proudly work for many praiseworthy goals, but also accept malthusiastic concepts such as overpopulation. So they declare some to be ‘ unter-menschen’, killing babies before they become human and easing away the senile. In contrast, the laws given by spiritual decree forbid unprincipled behavior by believers. God made our world for successive generations and plans to shut it down when the number of saints is full.
    A new book, ‘Techie Worlds’ (available from Amazon.com) looks at some teachings of the Galilean. They are ridiculous and cannot happen if there is ‘only this world’. But viewed in the light of Flatland’s contiguous dimensional worlds, they make simple mechanistic sense. This is the way of science: to look at phenomena to see if they are explained by a theory. If they are, that theory is accepted as true. So the Galilean logically based his statements on a spiritual world that truly exists and is superior to ours. ‘Techie Worlds’ discusses teachings about the Trinity, soul, resurrection, judgment, hell and Satan and others, showing them to be mechanistic and logical in higher worlds.
    As Jews, Muslims, and pagans learn that the spiritual world of Christ is real, wars and terror will pass and the reign of Love will ennoble our world for the wellbeing of all.
    GeorgeRic

  24. 25 How to choose right clothing hangers Friday, April 30, 2010 at 3:18 am

    Choosing the right coat hangers, you should follow these rules. Firstly, you need to know the Garment Type different coat hangers have different style and they are suit for specific type of garments. Secondly. Material, which is very important factor of choosing right cloth hangers we should us different material in different enviorments. Thirdly. Space, some coat hangers are really saving spaces so for those house holders who want more space for your closet slim hangers, plastic hangers, or metal hangers are the right choice.

  25. 27 JJ Friday, April 30, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    JAB – If the fetus fetishists ever get their way, “choosing the right coat hanger” will be information that all women need.


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