Oh guess what guess what guess what no you’ll never!… Dr. Morgentaler gets to keep his Order of Canada. What a surprise! (/end sarc)
Most of you will recall how fetus fetishists attempted to get a “blizzard” of returned Order of Canada medals in protest against Dr. Morgentaler finally getting this well-deserved and long-overdue honour. (Oh what fun that was last summer — MASSIVE amounts of fun!) Needless to say, the perfect storm of returned medals never materialized… the final tally was about nine(9), including “4 from beyond the grave”, as we like to say around here.
Yep, I’m sure you’ll fondly recall all of that. But you probably won’t remember this part of it — I sure didn’t. About a year ago, Frank Chauvin, one of the fetus fetishists who swore up and down that he was returning his medal, had a bit of a change of heart. In spite of his threats, Chauvin apparently had trouble parting with his medal (and in fact has not returned it to this day), so rather than giving it up for the “cause” like he said he would…
“Yes, it’s definitely going,” Chauvin said Thursday from his Windsor home. “I don’t want to be painted with the same brush as Morgentaler. It’s definitely going back.“
…he decided to hang onto his medal and try to get Dr. Morgentaler’s medal taken away from him instead. To this end, he launched a legal challenge to invalidate Dr. Morgentaler’s award:
Local Order of Canada member Frank Chauvin has launched a legal challenge against the advisory council that decided to make abortion-rights activist Dr. Henry Morgentaler an Order of Canada member.
“This is not the way they’re supposed to choose,” Chauvin, a devout Catholic, said from his Windsor home on Friday.
No indeed! They’re only supposed to choose fetus fetishists, right? Well, the verdict is in and Chauvin’s court challenge is a MASSIVE FAIL:
A Federal Court ruling this week has said that the Governor General’s highly controversial induction of Canada’s “father of abortion,” Henry Morgentaler, into the Order of Canada last summer cannot be legally contested.
In a decision released this week, Order-inductee Frank Chauvin’s application for a federal court review of the award was rejected on the grounds that it is “plain and obvious that [it] cannot succeed.“
That’s legalese for “Well, DUH!”
Now come on, Frank, let’s have the medal… you said you would… come on now, give it up… you promised… you wouldn’t want to be a hypocrite, now would you? Come on…
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Nice! And we get to celebrate again. Just like he won it twice. Way to go Henry. Sucks to be you, pro-lifers.
Hi 900ft – Amazing how this guy went to such great lengths to avoid returning his medal like he said he would. So much for standing by your principles. D’oh!
Heh. MASSIVE fail.
Where’s the picture of Nelson going “Ha-HA”?
Dr.Dawg – An Epic MASSIVE FAIL, since he obviously went to great lengths to avoid having to return his medal, and now…
he’s fucked!
This monster boasted of personally killing more than 100,000 unborn children, and is responsible for the deaths of millions more. Because of Morgentaler’s pro-abortion activism, Canada currently has one of the most extreme abortion regimes in the world, in which a woman can have her unborn child killed up to birth at taxpayer expense for any reason.
Jasper, shut the fuck up. You’re a one-note kazoo and your screeching is becoming tedious. That is all.
Jasper –
What a load of bullshit propaganda.
But guess what: even with NO abortion law, Canada’s abortion rate is way lower than the USA’s, and we hardly have any late term abortions. And the few patients who do need the late-term procedure are usually sent stateside for it.
Nobody has an abortion “up to birth”, that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Just because there’s no law against it, doesn’t mean that people are doing it. There’s no law against drinking battery acid, but nobody’s doing that either. Should we have a law against it, just in case? Duh.
deBeauxOs – I wonder where Jasper gets his information? Sounds like he’s been reading BBW
Ugh. Jasper is worse than a spam-bot.
JJ – yes, it seems as though he is regurgitating the religious zealotry propaganda posted at Blob Blogging Wingnut’s.
There’s no law against drinking battery acid, but nobody’s doing that either.
Are you entirely sure that Jasper isn’t?
WOW, Canada’s abortion rate is half of that in the US, with all the hoops woman have to jump through to get one (and pay for it themselves) down there! Frank, tell them you “lost”it.
What? You think Frank’s (Chauvin, not me) going to give up his preciousssssssssss?
If you don’t like Mr. Chauvain principles, I’m sure he’s got others!
JJ: There’s no law against drinking battery acid, but nobody’s doing that either.
QrazyQat: Are you entirely sure that Jasper isn’t?
Me: Are you saying Jasper is
drinking his own blood??
Qrazy Qat
Alas poor little Jasper
We’ll not see Jasper more
For what he thought was H2O
Was H2S04
Jasper
Where did you come up with your figures??? 100,000 unborn children, and is responsible for the deaths of millions more…
What I suggest to Jasper and others like him, is to fund a special program to raise any unwanted children.
Jasper does not have to worry about having a baby. He does not have to work about being under aged or being a rape victim. He does not have to try and raise the baby by himself.
Many girls and women do not have the resources to raise a baby. A 14 or 15 year old girl is still a child in their own right. If Jasper, and others like him, can provide all funding for these 100,000 to millions of baby then perhaps the situation could be made better for a raped women, an under aged girl or a women with very little means to raise a child.
Jasper, if you believe in what you say, then start to hand over the money to support the 100,000 to millions of babies to come. Otherwise, shut up!
M. Dethridgie,
Ok, I won’t say a word until I can provide for 100,000 ‘unwanted’ babies. If I do that, will you tell the baby-killin skanks and sluts to keep their legs closed?
Thank you Jasper, for demonstrating what we already know but anti-choicers steadfastly refuse to admit — it’s all about the sluts and skanks and their open legs.
Thank you!
Phatbiker
LOL
I shouldn’t laugh, that’s probably exactly what he’ll do
Jasper, honey, if sluts and skanks kept their legs closed, you’d suffocate…
FF and SQ – He better damn well return his medal, he’s been on their “list” of “returnees” for over a year!
I’ll be watching…
Janus – He wishes!
Jasper, thank you for that unexpected expression of honesty on your part.
Instead of spewing propaganda from Nurse Stank’s blogsite, you finally revealed how you feel about women who are dealing with unplanned and unwanted pregnancies.
It’s not that difficult to understand – pregnancy should not be a punishment or a life sentence.
So, women who don’t behave according to your religious rules are “baby-killin skanks and sluts” to you.
That seems fair. After all, I believe that you are a callous, self-centered zealot who can only squeeze out a drop of compassion for your religious fanatic buddies.
Jasper, why do you hate women? Don’t tell me you don’t because between your skanks and sluts comments to saying that women should be publicly shamed if they don’t agree with you, to a hundred different comments, it’s clear that you hate women. Also, why do you keep wanting to meet the men of this board in dark allies?
Bleatmop that’s easy, because they’re all uppity with their independance and voting rights and control of their own uterus instead of subservient like the bible says they should be.
Come to think of it I haven’t gotten that offer yet. Should I be flattered or insulted?
Ok, that was wrong on my part. sorry.
Jasper says: If I do that, will you tell the baby-killin skanks and sluts to keep their legs closed?
And there you have it folks, the true face of the anti-choice movement. Pure misogyny with a side of righteous (im)moral indignation.
This is not about preserving ‘life’. If that was the case thousands of children who are dying from lack of clean water could be saved, or mosquito nets to counter the scourge of Malaria could all benefit from all these people spending their time and resources to preserve ‘life’. Saving childrens lives who are dying from easily preventable diseases would be honourable, it would be noble, and given the anti-choicers skewed sense of morality most likely will never happen.
What utter fracking horsepucky. Pro-life indeed. Douche-nozzles like Jasper exist only to strip women of their autonomy. In the name of the sky-fairy or some iteration of the twisted morality they purport to follow it is always their best case scenario that women are systematically devalued, marginalized and denuded of their reproductive freedom.
Take your glad handed misogyny, your slut shaming, your patriarchal twerpitude and go die in a fire.
I’ll bring the fracking smores.
Shade, I’m not sure, but I think Jasper just offered? Or at least he said that it was wrong on his part that he had not?
“I’ll bring the fracking smores.”
I think I’m in love.
Arbourist – Fetus fetishists can crow and post pictures of fetuses all they want, but it is the pictures that I see in the “mysogyny” link that actually affect me. Consequently this is the end result of the woman haters dream of devaluing and devoicing women and forcing them to live by “man’s law” that they masturbate to every night.
To paraphrase what JJ once said to me – The religious right hates Islam so much because they have accomplished what they want to do (creating theocracies). – To add to it, I feel the reason why so many men in Islamic states are still angry is because they haven’t completely wiped women of the face of the planet yet.
Bleatmop
I completely agree with you. The men that did that to those women go largely unpunished. It is a despicable cultural norm that cannot be allowed to gain any more momentum.
Women are human beings.
And until that fact it embraced and internalized no one will be safe.
I had another post with some of Dworkin’s thoughts on the Right I’ll cut and paste here. They dovetail nicely with yours and JJ’s thoughts
“Some of you are very concerned about the rise of the Right in this country, as if that is something separate from the issues of feminism or the men’s movement. There is a cartoon I saw that brought it all together nicely. It was a big picture of Ronald Reagan as a cowboy with a big hat and a gun. And it said: “A gun in every holster; a pregnant woman in every home. Make America a man again.” Those are the politics of the Right.
If you are afraid of the ascendancy of fascism in this country–and you would be very foolish not to be right now–then you had better understand that the root issue here has to do with male supremacy and the control of women; sexual access to women; women as reproductive slaves; private ownership of women. That is the program of the Right. That is the morality they talk about. That is what they mean. That is what they want. And the only opposition to them that matters is an opposition to men owning women.”
My apologies as this is heading into OT territory, but whats his pickle seriously vexed me with his inanity and the Dworkin words seem to fit well with what has been said.
M.Dethridgie – Jasper’s figures come from anti-choice propaganda, that’s why they’re so seriously out of whack with reality.
A Canadian anti-choice group ran a billboard campaign (which might still be running) that suggested abortion is available right up to the 9th month — just because there’s no law against it.
In reality, few if any Canadian doctors do abortions past the 2nd trimester unless it’s an extreme medical emergency (ie, the pregnant woman is diagnosed with cancer and needs chemotherapy which would kill the fetus anyway). Dr. Morgentaler didn’t do them past 24 weeks.
I find it amusing that an American would lambaste Canadians for having “no limits” on abortion, given that they have far more abortions, including late term abortions, than we do. And the few late-term abortion patients we do have are usually sent stateside for the procedure!
Jasper
I agree, it was wrong of you to not invite Shade to meet you in a dark alleyway like you did with everyone else. (And we’re all looking forward to Jasper’s Dark Alleyway Group-Gropeapalooza!)
Arbourist – I love it when they inadvertently let the mask drop
We already know, we’ve known it for years, but it’s always nice to get confirmation from the horse’s mouth that our assessment is correct.
Bleatmop – That’s where cultural misogyny leads. It’s not a big leap from accepting the concept of ownership of women’s reproductive systems to ownership of them as persons — it hearkens back to the days when women were considered not much more than chattel, which wasn’t that long ago.
This sickness is rampant in Islamic countries. That’s the danger of using an old book of fairy tales to make law, whether it’s the bible or the koran.
Arbourist again – That’s not OT at all, in fact it’s right on topic. Great quote from Dworkin — although I don’t agree with everything she said, her observations of the extreme right were often right on target. (And she coined the term “borked” — gotta love that.)
Also, why do you keep wanting to meet the men of this board in dark allies?
Because no one would suck his cock if they could see his face.
“We already know, we’ve known it for years, but it’s always nice to get confirmation from the horse’s mouth that our assessment is correct.”
Oh, JJ, your sense of direction is woeful, at times. That wasn’t his mouth…
“Because no one would suck his cock if they could see his face.”
*ewwww*