O. M. F. G. This is beyond “funny” and moving into the realm of “side-splitting” and “hysteria-inducing.” Politically incorrect comment: He really IS black!
Brian: That was just tasteless. I really hate the implication that because Frank is gay and supportive of Obama that there’s some sort of sexual relationship between them. It’s ridiculous and just Not Cool.
And actually, begging the question, while a particular logic error, is used to mean “to lead inexorably to a question” by so many people, that it has become the standard meaning of it. Language changes. Usually because of a mistake or misuse, as in this case. But it’s done. Don’t bother trying to stop it.
Luna, I’ll have to disagree about changes in popular usage. We don’t for example use the phrase “the die is cast” in reference to death just simply because the word “die” is contained in the phrase.
“Begs the question” has a very specific definition in the realm of logic and philosophy. That definition is not open for change. Use “raises the question” or “brings up the question” instead.
I’m just going to have to be pedantic about it and will continue to correct it when I see it. I would post a couple links to support what I’ve just said but unfortunately can not post links where I currently find myself. That’s due to IT restrictions.
Apologies for contributing to the off-topic language tangent. I couldn’t help but get it into here as I’ve had to get into that very “begs the question’ thing elsewhere earlier today. It’s the former journalism and writing student in me.
So, back to the actual topic at hand. Yes, Brian that was tasteless and, if I may add, completely gratuitous.
“Beg the question” goes back to the 16th century, and it means to stack the cards in an argument by assuming something that hasn’t been proved before the debate begins. In Latin: petitio principii.
Sorry, Luna. Wrong usage still does not change the meaning.
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Though it does beg the question: Which Republicans are turned on?
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O. M. F. G. This is beyond “funny” and moving into the realm of “side-splitting” and “hysteria-inducing.” Politically incorrect comment: He really IS black!
Well, clearly Barney Frank likes the size of Obama’s package.
BTW deBeauxOs: to “beg the question” is to commit a logic error, not to lead inexorably to a question.
Nonsense. The Republicans commit errors in logic all the time. It’s like breathing to them.
Brian: That was just tasteless. I really hate the implication that because Frank is gay and supportive of Obama that there’s some sort of sexual relationship between them. It’s ridiculous and just Not Cool.
And actually, begging the question, while a particular logic error, is used to mean “to lead inexorably to a question” by so many people, that it has become the standard meaning of it. Language changes. Usually because of a mistake or misuse, as in this case. But it’s done. Don’t bother trying to stop it.
Typical republicans, they don’t know a good package when it’s right in front of them
Luna, I’ll have to disagree about changes in popular usage. We don’t for example use the phrase “the die is cast” in reference to death just simply because the word “die” is contained in the phrase.
“Begs the question” has a very specific definition in the realm of logic and philosophy. That definition is not open for change. Use “raises the question” or “brings up the question” instead.
I’m just going to have to be pedantic about it and will continue to correct it when I see it. I would post a couple links to support what I’ve just said but unfortunately can not post links where I currently find myself. That’s due to IT restrictions.
To make such a tasteless, flippant remark about Barney Frank and then go off about errors in logic is a serious error in judgment.
Brian, you never answered my question.
Apologies for contributing to the off-topic language tangent. I couldn’t help but get it into here as I’ve had to get into that very “begs the question’ thing elsewhere earlier today. It’s the former journalism and writing student in me.
So, back to the actual topic at hand. Yes, Brian that was tasteless and, if I may add, completely gratuitous.
Oh, goody! etymology fight! I’m in!
“Beg the question” goes back to the 16th century, and it means to stack the cards in an argument by assuming something that hasn’t been proved before the debate begins. In Latin: petitio principii.
Sorry, Luna. Wrong usage still does not change the meaning.
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