This could get ugly

Here’s something that the US needs to prioritize along with health care reform because life could take a sharp turn for the worse if nothing is done to prevent it.

A million and a half angry, chronically-unemployed, flat-broke people with guns.  What could possibly go wrong?

23 Responses to “This could get ugly”


  1. 1 J. A. Baker Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    A million and a half angry, chronically-unemployed, flat-broke people with guns. What could possibly go wrong?

    Especially if they’re the type that are inclined to believe the latest Birther crapola!

    (Warning, link goes to WingNutDaily – your premier source for Birther Crapola™)

  2. 2 JJ Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Ah, they finally found the Kenyan birth certificate… I was wondering how long that would take.

    It’s frightening that people are stupid enough to believe that tripe, and there are enough of them that the GOP pays attention to them. I only hope they’re the not the ones who are about to run out of unemployment.

    While I’m certainly in favour of responsible gun ownership, in times like these I think it might be helpful to include a battery of psych and IQ tests along with the other licensing requirements.

  3. 3 Bruce Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    This is something that has been on my mind for some time. In the wake of eight years of confirmation for people whose best hope in life is to have no hope, we have a well-established culture of the self-imposed damned.

    It’s been the perfect breeding ground for people who desperately want to abdicate democratic responsibility for the sake of apocalyptic fantasies if it only means they don’t have to deal with reality.

    For months now I keep thinking that the police culture has bought into the Bush doctrine (Tiller is a good example), and if Obama doesn’t get police, security and intelligence forces on side, he will ultimately fail as President. The trailer trash set has a lot of pent-up frustration, right or wrong, but they are ready to explode and a black president is a pretty good excuse for them.

    He has to get law enforcement on side or things could slide into an even worse situation than we imagined with Bush.

  4. 4 mouthyorange Monday, August 3, 2009 at 7:19 am

    “Ah, they finally found the Kenyan birth certificate…”

    Well hey, if Obama were really born in Kenya and birthers try to spin that this makes him somehow makes him not authentically American and therefore illegitimate as president, by the same logic a whole whackload of self-professed Christians aren’t authentically Christian either, because they weren’t born to Christian parents but adopted the religion later on their own.

    I may not be representing the birthers’ argument precisely because I’m not following the tripe closely. But I hope you get my gist.

  5. 5 mouthyorange Monday, August 3, 2009 at 7:20 am

    Bruce, that’s scary.

  6. 6 Dan Monday, August 3, 2009 at 8:30 am

    mouthyorange,

    It’s a part of the US constitution that you have to be born in the US to be President. It makes Ah-nold cry sometimes that he can never do better than running KahliFOURneeyah.

  7. 7 mouthyorange Monday, August 3, 2009 at 10:15 am

    Thanks, Dan. I almost wish I hadn’t become apprised of that little fact about the US. I probably suspected it but didn’t want it confirmed for me, in the interest of trying to find ways not to think too badly about the place. Don’t mind hearing about the Ah-nold part, though.

  8. 8 J. A. Baker Monday, August 3, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Thanks, Dan. I almost wish I hadn’t become apprised of that little fact about the US. I probably suspected it but didn’t want it confirmed for me, in the interest of trying to find ways not to think too badly about the place.

    Yeah, it’s an unfortunate but somewhat understandable part of our history. IIRC, at the time of the drafting of the Constitution, we had just successfully challenged the absolute authority of the monarchy. Because of the rapid changes that our Revolution had catalyzed, the Founders were (justifiably, perhaps) worried about blowback from states that defended a monarchical governmental structure – in particular, they were worried about a sort of Manchurian Candidate-type situation.

    As the centuries passed, however, that sort of threat has diminished drastically (to put it mildly), so such a requirement is probably a bit anachronistic, especially if we’re the only country on the planet with such a requirement.

  9. 9 mouthyorange Monday, August 3, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Hey JAB, that does make it somewhat understandable.

    Given our recent fiasco when our PM lost the confidence of the House to add to the fact that the majority of voters didn’t want him but our own rep of the monarchy allowed him to keep his power as chief decision-maker for the country just the same, I often find myself wondering whether we, too, should dispense with the last remnants of authority of the monarchy in this country. Or, if we keep such remnants for figurehead or ceremony, at least take decision-making power away from it. Although there may be other ways to solve the serious problem this recent precedent has created for us.

    Hope I’m making sense. Not feeling too articulate today.

  10. 10 J. A. Baker Monday, August 3, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Although, to be fair to Her Excellency, with the exception of letting Harper prorogue Parliament, the Gov. General has acquitted herself remarkably well in terms of holding your wingnuts at bay – as far as I can tell from passively observing Canadian politics down here in Texas. 🙂

  11. 11 JJ Monday, August 3, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Bruce – I agree wholeheartedly. There is something rotten happening in the states, something we never saw in all the 8 years that Bush was in office. As crazy as people could get at times in anti-war demonstrations, I never saw anything as outright hateful as what we’re seeing now from the “teabagger/birther” element — not only nuts, but ignorant, angry and dumb as dirt. It’s a combination that always leads to trouble.

  12. 12 JJ Monday, August 3, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    orange – Born Agains get a pass. The stray sheep is the most beloved and all that 😉

    I only just started following the birther thing because I thought it was just a few whackos, but it seems they’re a large enough group for the GOP to take seriously, so OH NO. Although I think that says more about the GOP than it says about the “birther movement”.

  13. 13 JJ Monday, August 3, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    JAB – Things have changed a lot since the days of the framers, but people never fail to misinterpret what they said and think it applies in the context of the 21st century. ie. the individual right to armed insurrection, militias etc. I don’t think they meant these far-right militia groups that have sprung up in the last 40 years.

  14. 14 JJ Monday, August 3, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Dan – Wasn’t there some talk for awhile about changing that so Ah-nold could run for Prez? A couple of years ago I seem to recall hearing something about that.

  15. 15 J. A. Baker Monday, August 3, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Dan – Wasn’t there some talk for awhile about changing that so Ah-nold could run for Prez?

    Well, yeah. But that was before Ah-nuld committed the thoughtcrime of being insufficiently conservative.

  16. 16 J. A. Baker Monday, August 3, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    It’s a combination that always leads to trouble.

    Especially in light of this disturbing news

  17. 17 m baker Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    I do believe violence is a very real possibility. With the Palin fringe group being fed that Obama “paled around with terrorist”, our country’s current economic situation, people like Glenn Beck and the others on Fox feeding their inflamatory rubbish, we and bound to have some “hero”or “heros”, in his or their mind taking things in their own hands to try to “save the country”. Glenn Beck daily rants about how serious our countrys situation currently is his “I fear for my country” is bound to stir some person/persons to violence. And then add into the mix the racial hatred that again has raised its ugly head because we have a black President, its only a matter of time. We have already seen the killing in Washington D.C. at the Holocaust Museam and the killing of Dr. Tiller this yaer. I believe by the end of the year we will see another horrific event. I hope my prediction is wrong!

  18. 18 JJ Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    JAB – Holy SHIT!!! and that’s “credible threats”, it probably doesn’t include all the nutcase teabaggers who make threats.

    There’s something rotten happening down there. I’m getting worried.

  19. 19 JJ Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    m baker – Oh, violence isn’t a possibility, it’s a probability.

    Just a couple of weeks ago at Free Republic they had a huge thread about overthrowing the government at this teabaggers rally they’re having in DC in September — guys were seriously talking about showing up ARMED. So yes, violence is unfortunately almost guaranteed at some point.

    It wouldn’t surprise me to see another violent event within a couple of months — these people have notoriously short memories, so by now they’ve all but forgotten the Holocaust Museum.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I won’t be surprised if I’m right.

  20. 20 J. A. Baker Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Well, it’s happened. The teabaggers have turned violent.

    Connolly said he spoke to at least one freshman Democrat who was physically assaulted at a local event.

    This is terrorism, pure and simple.

  21. 22 JJ Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    JAB – Violence? Death threats? The angry angry left is at it again. Damn those moonbats.

    Something rotten is happening. These teabaggers are a minority who are absolutely enraged that they are out of power, after 8 years of having it their way and failing miserably. They have no respect for the democratic process — for some reason it doesn’t occur to them that the majority voted for Obama, they lost, they should get the fuck over it.

    Funny we never saw any of this kind of bullshit when Bill Clinton took office. The teabaggers are nothing but racist scumbags.

  22. 23 J. A. Baker Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Funny we never saw any of this kind of bullshit when Bill Clinton took office.

    Oh, the ugliness was always there, JJ (think “Clinton Body Count” and “Clinton Chronicles”) – it just was never at the volcano-heat intensity that is currently aimed at Obama. The two times it came closest to this were the Oklahoma City bombing and Ann Coulter’s assertion in her book about the Lewinsky scandal that the only debate we should’ve been having was whether to “impeach or assassinate” Clinton.

    In just six months in office, Obama has had far more intense right-wing hatred aimed in his direction for a far longer time than was ever aimed at Clinton. And just think, it’s all because he committed the thoughtcrime of winning a presidential election while being a black liberal moderate.


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