On graves and pissing

Balbulican points out that, rather than being an occasion to prove that much-vaunted “Conservative Civility” (and imagine that phrase being said in the most mocking of tones, because that’s how I’m thinking it as I type), the death of Ted Kennedy prompted a virulent, full-bore feeding frenzy in the Wankosphere.

The burst of self-righteous rancor spewed by those who like to smugly think of themtkfuneralselves as  “Good Catholics” (imagine same tone as above) is particularly amusing, in a loathesome, maggoty kind of way:  the Pope himself forgave Kennedy.  Too bad so many of his minions can’t follow his lead.

16 Responses to “On graves and pissing”


  1. 1 Cornelius T.Zen Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 9:58 am

    Good morrow, all!
    I find it most amusing that the Christians of America base their religious outlook on the Old Testament. They have forgotten something:
    The OLD Testament is the Book of the Jewish People. The Christians of America have NO RIGHT to claim it as their own. They HAVE their own testament, given to them by the original Christians. It called the NEW Testament for a reason, a very GOOD reason. It is NEW. It is DIFFERENT. It is based upon the teachings of someone who cautioned VERY STRONGLY against practicing one’s religion in the sight of other men. This Person preached forgiveness and understanding. This Person preached support and affirmation of one another. This Person was threatened with stoning by the religious establishment of his day. This Person was handed over to the occupying forces as a political shit-disturber, in order to be silenced. This Person pointed out the hypocrisies of His time. This Person was a radical, a rabble-rouser, a terrorist. He represented Change.
    What Would Jesus Do? If you don’t know, you haven’t been paying attention. If you haven’t been paying attention, what makes you think God is listening?
    Good night, and may your God go with you – CTZen

  2. 2 JJ Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 10:32 am

    CTZen

    What Would Jesus Do? If you don’t know, you haven’t been paying attention.

    Forgive, if I recall correctly.

    (This is where the “save us from your followers” line fits in.)

  3. 3 croghan27 Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    jj – part of the problem is that I concurred with it. I cheered on the “uncomplimentary”, to say the least, essays that appeared when Strom Thurmond checked out. Here was your “self-righteous rancor” in full force with croggy, if not leading, backing up the charge.

    I thought when he was alive he was a slug and blot on the body politic, I thought then when he died the world was a better place and think now that he is an unpleasant memory, like of a pustulating sore in the mouth, now cured.

    Someone had some good thoughts to say recently about Robert McNamara, Sec of Death for Pres. Johnson, who just died. I quickly recalled the millions killed under his aegis and implied that pity was more deserved by them, than by McNamara.

    No, it is part of my make up or my position that I would not/could not suggest any kind of violent termination of McNamara’s or Thurmond’s life and activities, but neither could I mourn their passing.

    Particularly in politics, everything is food for the fire and here we are speaking about tactics, not substance. I cannot condemn, even as I would like to, the salivating masses of the fascists for doing what I would and have done myself.

  4. 4 balbulican Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    I guess I have to disagree, croghan, which probably marks me as some kind of intolerable moderate to be lined up against the wall and shot when you steely-eyed true believers (Meet the New Boss…) take over.

    When I read folks like Jay Currie celebrating the horrific, violent death of a young pro-Palestinian American demonstrator, I want to puke: I think something basically and essentially human is being violated by small and vulgar minds for the sake of a cheap political point. And if that’s true, I can’t allow myself to do the same thing.

    It can’t ALL be about scoring points. We have to hang on to some shred of decency in all this.

  5. 5 Bina Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    It may be indecent of me, but I *still* speak ill of Hitler every chance I get. And that bastard’s been dead HOW long?

    Of course, to tell the truth about SOME dead people, you have to resort to not-nice language because, well…what were they in life, again?

    But this Ted Kennedy feeding frenzy is totally unwarranted. They’re making shit up. THAT’s the real indecency here. (And that’s what I’m gonna remember them for when they croak, too.)

  6. 6 JJ Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Croghan – I see what you’re getting at, but I respectfully disagree.

    Although generally death isn’t something to be happy about, some people deserve it, and there’s an easy way to figure out who. A page titled “Contributions to the world”, two sides, Bad and Good, list accordingly. In that context, Thurmond wasn’t even capable of licking the soles of Kennedy’s shoes. (A more apt analogy would be the death of Ronald Reagan, and I saw little if any of the kind of malicious hate I’ve seen for the last few days.)

    Besides — there’s a different flavour to the vitriol about Kennedy, sadly typical of so-called “conservatives” these days. IIRC, there was no talk about putting Strom through a woodchipper etc. — right-wingers seem to love getting right down into the pigshit and violently jacking off while they roll around in it.

  7. 7 JJ Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    balb

    I guess I have to disagree, croghan, which probably marks me as some kind of intolerable moderate to be lined up against the wall and shot when you steely-eyed true believers (Meet the New Boss…) take over.

    Moderates R Us! 😉

    Croghan means well but gives conservatives more credit than they deserve. They really have been complete assholes about Kennedy, far worse than I’ve ever seen from any so-called “liberal” bloggers or commenters about people like Reagan or even Thurmond. But their anger comes from some place deeper — Kennedy represents the generation that they like to blame everything on. Eventually they’ll have to grow up and start taking some responsibility for themselves and stop blaming “the boomers” for everything, scary concept.

  8. 8 JJ Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Bina – Yeah, the funny thing is, nobody (that I’ve read, anyway) has tried to imply that Kennedy wasn’t a flawed individual — he was. But in his public life he also did a lot of good, and when someone reaches the end of the line, that is what counts.

  9. 9 croghan27 Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    WOW bulb …. not quite sure who you think is about to line you up against a wall and shot, certainly not me. Perhaps you should get some help there as saying to me: “when you steely-eyed true believers take over.” shows some departure from reality.

    But thank you for proving my point in the comment … that both (what is called) the left and the right, at least, expand the boundaries of good taste if not jump over them in some circumstances. Sarah P. makes a jump from ‘living wills’ to death panels and you go from a discussion of taste to being lined up against a wall. As a process there is not a big difference – both jumps make about as much sense.

    You may note that the person I slagged most in that response was … ME … I even began my rejoinder to the person rationalizing for McNamara by saying: “You are obviously a better person than I ….” – in this case, responding to you, I shall reserve judgement.

    Kennedy was indeed an icon, an icon of what passes for the left in the USA. (Never have been sure what a ‘liberal lion’ is …. and it sounds as an expression that is a tad over the top for me). An icon is a symbol and will be attacked for the symbol it is …. not for anything innate. The more prominent the icon the harsher the attacks. Expect it; Look forward to it; prepare for it.

  10. 10 balbulican Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    “Sarah P. makes a jump from ‘living wills’ to death panels and you go from a discussion of taste to being lined up against a wall.”

    Uhh…Sarah P meant it. I didn’t. Not clear?

  11. 11 Bruce Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Speaking of Sarah and the boundaries of good taste (not sure how she got into this thread anyway, Croghan, bad choice), she offered condolence over Kennedy on her Facebook page in her own inimitable way:

    http://marmel.com/2009/08/the-company-you-keep-and-create-sarah-palin/

    Stupid stunned broad can’t do anything right, I don’t think it’s a Freudian slip so much as that yummy Republican cool-aide.

  12. 12 JJ Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Bruce – Oh yeah, what a maggot-ridden hate-fest at SaWah’s. Her original comment was not bad, but wow! You’d think she could have posted another note to tell her “fans” to stop the shit-slinging.

    Probably a dog whistle in the original note… “fought passionately for his convictions”, not “worthwhile convictions”. Or maybe she’s just an idiot… yeah, I’m going with Door #2.

  13. 14 Cornelius T.Zen Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Good morrow, Bruce!
    Please! Some consideration here! To call Sarah Palin an idiot is to insult the idiots of America. They have feelings, too, you know. Next thing you know, they’ll be camped on your doorstep (if they can find it) chanting, “She’s not one of us!”
    On the other hand, they should be grateful that they know someone who makes them look smart.
    May you be a half-hour in Heaven before the devil knows you’re dead – CTZen

  14. 15 Bruce Sunday, August 30, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    CTZen,

    “Next thing you know, they’ll be camped on your doorstep (if they can find it) chanting, “She’s not one of us!”

    You see, this is where I’m not one of those bleeding heart little faggots that’s going to make life easier for the fools of the world. I’ve been around long enough to know I don’t have time for shit like that.

    I love your wit, and according to most theories, I AM the Devil. I figure I could worse.

  15. 16 Bina Monday, August 31, 2009 at 6:09 am

    Speaking of the wankosphere and grave-pissing, look what they did:

    http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/24519.html

    They actually organized a circle-jerk…er, SYMPOSIUM. Dedicated entirely to trashing Ted’s tomb.

    The Viagra must have been flying thick and fast that night.


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