Real Canadians talk about Real Healthcare

Here we are, telling it like it IS about universal healthcare:

USians: don’t believe the BULLSHIT the right-wing is shoveling about universal healthcare.  Ask any Canadian if they would trade our universal healthcare for the American system, and most of us will say

NO!!!

The rest will say

HELL, NO!!!

(h/t Chet, Shoq on Twitter)

14 Responses to “Real Canadians talk about Real Healthcare”


  1. 1 J. A. Baker Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 10:46 am

    Ask any Canadian if they would trade our universal healthcare for the American system, and most of us will say

    NO!!!

    Funny, that’s what I’ve said. And it’s not just me. Thom Hartmann has said it on occasion, too. So some of us USians get it. Sadly, we aren’t allowed to have much of a voice, thanks to our “librul” media.

  2. 2 West End Bob Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Thanks for this one, JJ!

    I’m spreadin’ it around . . . .

  3. 3 JJ Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Thanks WAB! Post it, tweet it, get ‘er out there! Americans are being lied to, big time, and they need to know the truth.

  4. 4 fern hill Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    In the hopes that Americans are visiting here, here’s an account of my encounter with the Canadian healthcare system this week.

    I got an infected toe (don’t ask). I was treating it — soaking, antibiotic cream. But by Monday, I had to admit it wasn’t getting better. Called doc, asked if I could come in the next day. Yup. Zero wait in waiting room. Doc said I needed systemic antibiotics. Doc pulled out script pad. Moi: You got any samples kicking around? Doc: I’ll look. Yup, he did and handed them over.

    Upshot — total cost: two transit fares. No waiting. No problemo. Not a bureaucrat in sight.

    Good vid, by the way.

  5. 5 JJ Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    fern hill – Thanks. We take our healthcare system for granted, but I’m sure just about all of us have a story of outstanding care.

    Yeah, the video is really good, and as you & I can attest to, pretty typical.

    The fight over healthcare in the states is turning my stomach (lucky I’ve got universal healthcare) — it’s hard to believe people would turn against their own interests this way. I can see why the GOP is so desperate to kill it, though. Their survival depends on it. If Americans ever get universal healthcare, when they see how well it works they will LOVE it, and that will be the end of the GOP.

    I hope a few sane Republicans like Olympia Snowe will help get this thing done.

  6. 6 JJ Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    JAB – Yeah. There was a poll taken not long ago, and 87% of us rated our healthcare system as good or excellent. 87% — which means a lot of conservatives as well as libs. NO WAY would Canadians ever drop universal for private healthcare.

    Elections are won and lost over healthcare up here. All someone has to do to win is suggest that their opponent might fuck with healthcare. Seriously! That’s how Paul Martin won in 2004.

  7. 7 Phatbiker Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    It’s not uncommon for people in the US to pay $600+ a month for coverage and others to go bankrupt paying for needed surgery to stay alive. The main reason I found that there are so many ex-pat americans living in Mexico is because the medical and drug costs are so much cheaper (even poor Mexico has universal health care). I know some americans (draft dodgers from the 60’s) who miss their homeland but will not go back because Canada’s health care system is so much better and affordable.
    Under the current US system I couldn’t afford coverage, and my 80 year old dad would be destitute or dead.

  8. 8 JJ Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Phatbiker – And even with $600/month coverage you can’t be sure they’ll pay for whatever treatment it is you need. This happens all the time. Unless you can afford really high-end “cadillac” coverage, you can’t even be sure of being covered. They employ people full time to work on ways to screw their policyholders out of coverage. (I hate insurance companies almost as much as I hate banks.)

    If I lived in the states, I’d be dead or living in a fucking tent. I was waitressing when I was diagnosed with cancer, so for sure I wouldn’t have had health insurance. And I would be one of the lucky ones, because I at least had a house to sell — what about someone who doesn’t?? Screwed!!!

    The US is the only country in the civilized world that doesn’t have universal health care — even IRAQ under Saddam had it 😯

  9. 9 fern hill Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    I contributed my story just because it was so damn mundane. If I were in the US and looking at — I have no idea of the cost — some cost for a visit to the doctor for something so minor, I might well have put it off until it got way worse, more pain, more cost, more time for me and a bunch of trained people.

    The point is — when healthcare is accessible and cheap/free, people look after themselves better. Which is why, I guess, Canadians live longer than Americans.

    Question, JJ: We never done an ‘open thread’ at DJ. I don’t think we have the traffic to make such a thing very impressive. How about altering this one into an open thread? ‘Hey, Canadians, tell your healthcare stories here.’ Maybe some big Murrican blog will link to it. . .

  10. 10 JJ Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    fern hill – I’m not sure I have the traffic either, but anyone who’s reading this, feel free to JUMP IN with your story!

    It’s funny, we all take healthcare so for granted that it doesn’t seem exceptional that you could be cured of cancer at no cost to yourself but the $7 hospital TV rental. But then you start reading some of the stories from the states 😯 it’s an eye-opener.

    I remember a few years ago when I used to post at a marathon board that was mostly Americans, one of the posters sprained her knee running. So I said “Better go to the doctor” and she said “I can’t afford to”, so I said “WTF ya talkin about, ‘can’t afford to’?” and she told me it would cost $350 — huh!!??? She had no health insurance. Then I found out a LOT of people have no health insurance, and quite a few others were sticking it out at jobs they hated just because of the health insurance. Holy shit, did that make me appreciate universal healthcare.

    But I digress. Anyway, anyone who wants to, feel free to fire away.

  11. 11 J. A. Baker Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Elections are won and lost over healthcare up here.

    Which is a nice change from down here, where elections are won and lost over which brown people we should bomb. 😆

  12. 12 J. A. Baker Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Maybe some big Murrican blog will link to it. . .

    Heh. I’d love to help you out with that, but my audience is pretty much me and a half dozen other people, even after 5 years of blogging.

  13. 13 JJ Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    JAB – Not “which ones” but “whether” to bomb or not to bomb (that is the question).

  14. 14 J. A. Baker Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Not “which ones” but “whether” to bomb or not to bomb (that is the question).

    No, trust me. I live here. It is “which ones.” Just ask George Carlin:


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