Maddow on the violent rhetoric of the whacked-out right

Watch it and weep:

UPDATE: And already, the cynical and paranoid are misrepresenting Speaker Pelosi’s remarks.  Is there no end to this madness??

UPDATE II: FAIL.

24 Responses to “Maddow on the violent rhetoric of the whacked-out right”


  1. 1 fern hill Friday, September 18, 2009 at 11:19 am

    That was great. Thanks, JJ. And thank you, Rachel.

    I don’t expect any Rethugnican to take her up on her challenge, though.

    It’s terrifying.

  2. 2 SM Friday, September 18, 2009 at 11:19 am

    Cleve made a remark, Remember what it was like after Pres Kennedy was shot, and I recalled being shocked, just last week, reading a comment on the Huff Post where someone recalled the day Kennedy was shot, it was announce in his Texas High School, and the poster recalled the immediate cheer that went up.

  3. 3 Bruce Friday, September 18, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    I think part of the reason I haven’t been blogging much lately is I really don’t know how to react to the current state of madness in the US. When did stupid become a virtue?

    (Ha! fresh browser, no bookmarks, no history, nothing. Had to Google search my own blog, it came up as a suggestion while I typed, I like that.)

  4. 4 J. A. Baker Friday, September 18, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I don’t want to say this, because the road this leads down scares the shit out of me. Nevertheless, I fear it must be said.

    They don’t care if someone gets hurt or killed anymore. They JUST. DON’T. FUCKING. CARE. It’s all about political and economic power to them. Let the country burn to the ground (in atomic fire, if need be); they don’t care as long as they, the rightful rulers, get their permanent fucking majority. It’s that simple. And unless we’re prepared to fight – with our lives, if need be – for basic democracy, we’re doomed.

  5. 5 brebis noire Friday, September 18, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    When someone does get shot (I was hoping to write if, but when just came out), I really doubt any Republican or religious right leader will want to assume any kind of responsibility. And if they don’t – things could escalate from there.

    A lot of Americans are whipped up into a righteous frenzy, and I’m not sure what it will take a lot to calm that down. I had thought that ignoring it would make it go away, but that doesn’t look like it’s panning out.

    I guess that as Canadians, we can only hope that we aren’t affected by any of this violent nonsense. Hard not to be captivated by it though.

  6. 6 Jasper Friday, September 18, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Rachel Maddow, oh you Mad Cow, Oh I hope nobody takes my Mad Cow away are you Keith Olberdorks little brother butchie?

  7. 7 CK Friday, September 18, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Absolutely frightening & insane!

    I think the only way for things to cool down is if some politician (some body with a brain, I know hard to find); preferably NOT from Texas will have the balls to say, “ENOUGH ALREADY!!” But that would require balls.

  8. 8 fern hill Friday, September 18, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Or eggs. Like Nancy Pelosi.

  9. 9 JJ Friday, September 18, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    fern hill – There was a time when I would have thought someone like John McCain could de-escalate things, but it’s unlikely he has the necessary gravitas with the teabagging crowd.

    I’m afraid it’s gotten to the point where there are no politicos who could stop the crazy train — even if the entire GOP started ignoring the nuts, there’s still Rush and Beck egging them on. And besides, half the GOP are nuts too!

    It’s a frightening situation. I am terrified for Obama, and Pelosi for that matter.

  10. 10 Cornelius T.Zen Friday, September 18, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Good morrow, all!
    Could somebody out there kindly explain something to me?
    Fox News claims to be the most widely watched news programming in America. Were that so, would it not then follow that sponsors would be lining up with their checkbooks, to take advantage of the marketing opportunities that the most widely watched news programming in America would offer?
    So why is News Corporation, Fox News parent corporation, bleeding red ink in what can only be described as a Niagara of financial loss? I believe the most recent reported financials for NewsCorp read: 2.3 BILLION dollars in the red. Would it not then follow that corporate America would be pouring vast sums into News Corporation, so that the viewers of Fox News would buy more product?
    News Corporation, in the person of Rupert Murdoch’s son, has taken to slagging the BBC, in an attempt to take a bigger share of the British media market. It appears there are not enough British rednecks to support the Murdoch media empire there. Pity.
    Wonder if they thought of lining up for a bailout from Uncle Sam? The image of Murdoch growling at politicians he has blasted in the apst, while begging for cash, makes me all warm inside.
    Stranger things have happened. Few come to mind – CTZen

  11. 11 JJ Friday, September 18, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    SM

    the poster recalled the immediate cheer that went up

    Kennedy was hated too, by the same type of no-minds that hate Obama.
    The difference is, we’ve become a society where violence is routine, and threats are made casually in ways that wouldn’t have been acceptable 50 years ago. I could be wrong, I was a little kid back then, but it seems to me that nobody would have carried a loaded gun & a threatening sign to a Kennedy speech, just to “make a point”. This is kind of a new phenomenon, and I don’t like it.

  12. 12 JJ Friday, September 18, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Bruce – I know exactly what you mean, and that’s what makes me think about taking a serious break from it. It just turns your stomach after awhile. The events and some of the people. (insert puking emoticon… how about this: :O<< )

    ETA:

    Had to Google search my own blog, it came up as a suggestion while I typed, I like that.

    Well, I should hope so after almost a decade! You’re the Blogfather, baby!

  13. 13 JJ Friday, September 18, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    JAB

    They don’t care if someone gets hurt or killed anymore.

    I’d go even further than that… I think they hope someone does get hurt. Then they can tsk-tsk and talk about how such things never happen when they’re in charge (because they’re the ones doing it, but uh… nevermind…). I have no doubt that if and when it does happen, that’ll be how it’s framed: “Well of course we have violence and anarchy, we have an illegitimate government! They don’t know what they’re doing! They’re pushing WE THE PEOPLE too far!”

    I mean, you already hear them making 2 out of 3 of those statements, the other is *usually* just inferred.

    These people screaming “We’re Americans and we want our country back” — who the fuck do they think are the 52% who handed them their asses in the last election? Of all the Bush-hate I ever saw, and it was a lot, I never saw anyone say that Bush & those who voted for him weren’t Americans.

    It’s like they think over half of the country are some kind of illegal aliens from Planet Liberal.

  14. 14 JJ Friday, September 18, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    brebis

    I really doubt any Republican or religious right leader will want to assume any kind of responsibility.

    Of course they won’t, nothing is ever their fault. They’re immature crybaby wimps who refuse to man up and own up — they lost the election and they won’t accept that it was because they were assholes for 8 years. It’s always someone else’s fault. Always. I have yet to see one of these assholes take responsibility for the GOP’s epic fails, which are too numerous to list.

  15. 15 JJ Friday, September 18, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Jasper – Thanks for making Maddow’s point. You really need help, dude, and that’s not snark, I’m quite serious. You have issues.

  16. 16 JJ Friday, September 18, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    CK – Who has enough drag with the teabagger gang to de-escalate this? The only ones I can think of are just as batshit as the teabaggers themselves.

  17. 17 JJ Friday, September 18, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    CTZen – Is Fox losing money, or just the parent corp? I’m fairly sure Fox itself makes money.

    Fox probably does have a fair number of advertisers lining up. From a media buying standpoint they have a unique audience in that some of it is almost unreachable by any other network (yes, there are wingnuts who won’t watch anything but Fox). Having a product advertised on Fox also lends it credibility with the wingnut demographic, and makes them more likely to buy it. If you’re an advertiser, that’s generally all that matters.

    However, some advertisers are backing off from Glenn Beck and his idiocy. Something like 57 advertisers have requested that their ads not run in his show. But while this might eventually get Beck booted off the air, it doesn’t hurt Fox News — the ads still run, just somewhere else.

    And Fox News is a big part of the problem. They’ve always been a right-wing propaganda vehicle, and play a big part in stoking the insanity. If Fox experienced a major drop in revenue because advertisers were refusing to buy any of their airtime, it might help bring them back from the abyss. But I don’t see this happening anytime soon, for the reasons I mentioned above.

  18. 18 J. A. Baker Friday, September 18, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    It’s like they think over half of the country are some kind of illegal aliens from Planet Liberal.

    Funny you should mention that. Some time within the last few years, a conservative compared liberalism with illegal immigration. For the life of me, I can’t remember who said it or what the exact quote was, and I’m too tired to look it up right now. I think he was a religious nutter in the northwestern part of the country…

  19. 19 JJ Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 9:11 am

    JAB – Seriously? 😯 Very strange to observe this kind of wingnuttery living in a country whose Liberal party is thought of as “Canada’s natural governing party”. I guess that’s why some of your wingnuts call us “Soviet Canuckistan” 👿

  20. 20 Cornelius T.Zen Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 11:20 am

    Good morrow, all!
    JJ: I stand corrected. The loss to News Corporation stands at 3.5 Billion. In other words, not enough people watch Fox News, buy tickets to 20th Century Fox movies, read Murdoch’s “news” papers, or advertise in any of the News Corporation Media, to make the company pay its own way. This may not be news in and of itself but it points out one big thing: the vast majority of people do not support the rabid right wing agenda promulgated by Murdoch and Co. And make no mistake, it is rabid.
    When the representatives of the company bristle, growl, foam at the mouth and bite indiscriminately, what other word describes their mindset but rabid?
    How about that? Capitalism that does not make dollars or sense.
    We’ll do it live! – CTZen

  21. 21 J. A. Baker Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Seriously? 😯

    Ya, srsly! On a hunch, I checked out the transcript of the Christianity segment of Christiane Amanpour’s God’s Warriors special report, and JACKPOT!

    His name is Rev. Joseph Fuiten, and he’s the head pastor at an Assembly of God church in Bothell, Washington.

    If you want in-depth reportage on this theocratic nutjob, Sara Robinson has more at this old Orcinus post. This is definitely NOT a person you want around your kids.

  22. 22 Frank Frink Sunday, September 20, 2009 at 3:15 am

    Bothwell. Wa., eh? Little too close to (my portion of) the border for my liking.

  23. 23 blahgblog Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Nice post and great blog. I hope you don’t mind — I’m going to link to it from mine.

    Have you heard about the census worker found hanged in Kentucky with “fed” written on his chest? The whole story isn’t out yet but the rightwingers are already calling it a false flag operation meant to make them look bad:

    http://blahgblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/census-worker-found-dead-rightwingers-worry-this-could-make-them-look-bad/

  24. 24 JJ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    blahgblog – Of course I don’t mind, if you don’t mind me linking to you in my post on that Kentucky story 😉 Thanks much!


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