Ka-BOOM!

xploding-headThe hills are alive with the sound of… a thousand Christofascist heads exploding in unison?:

President Obama told a gay rights group Saturday he will end the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that bars openly homosexual people from U.S. military service.

Obama addressed 3,000 people at a Human Rights Campaign fundraising dinner in Washington, the Los Angeles Times reported. He also said he wants to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act , which allows states to withhold recognition of same-sex marriages contracted in states where they are legal.

And even as we ponder and celebrate this news of a tentative step forward towards equality for all, the midnight oil is burning and press releases are being feverishly puked out in the offices of Focus on the Family, the Family Research Council, Concerned Women of America and the National Organization for Marriage (nomnomnom…).   Though tomorrow is the LORD’s day, you can be sure they’ll take time out from their Godly Activities to denounce, decry, and sternly rebuke those who’d keep them out of the bedrooms of the nation.

I can’t wait!

Meanwhile, I liked Bill Maher’s reasoning on why the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy should be repealed:

“Forget all the good arguments for repeal, like, because it’s the right thing to do, or because it was promised in the campaign,” Maher said. Instead:

“Do it because it will make Rush Limbaugh explode like a bag full of meat dropped from a helicopter,” he said. “Do it because it will make Sarah Palin go rogue in her pants.”

30 Responses to “Ka-BOOM!”


  1. 1 Bruce Saturday, October 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    I have to admit I haven’t followed it so far, most media people are asleep on the weekends down there. Unless they’re Rush or Glen or other such mindless idiots and we already know what they’re going to say.

    Yes the antichrist President spoke to the sodomites and now it’s only a matter of time before straight marriage becomes devalued and fascists rule the day while we sodomize their souls (if they had any) and teach their kids horrible things like the world is more than 6000 years old and turn all the boys into little sissy faggots that might have any grasp on reality.

    Anybody think I’m far off?

  2. 2 Jasper Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 6:02 am

    Anybody think I’m far off?

    yes

  3. 3 Jasper Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 6:06 am

    My response to Cornelius T.Zen on the the previous post:

  4. 4 sassy Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 7:10 am

    I agree with Bill Maher and with Bruce,

    Jasper – how many times have you been pregnant?

  5. 5 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 7:20 am

    Bruce – That sounds about right!

    There were no immediate responses that I could find last night when I posted this, but they’re probably being churned out by now, direct from the fainting couches!

  6. 6 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 7:21 am

    Sassy

    Jasper – how many times have you been pregnant?

    It doesn’t matter — Jasper probably thinks that squirting for a couple of seconds is the equivalent of 9 months of pregnancy.

  7. 7 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 7:25 am

    Jasper – That cartoon is bound to be good for a few comments.

    But I’d be interested in your explanation of what this has to do with “morality”, and why you feel you qualify as an arbiter of that category.

  8. 8 Cornelius T.Zen Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:00 am

    Good morrow, all!
    Nobody is equal until EVERYONE is equal.
    Jasper – what part of “replying to the topic at hand” escapes you?
    Homosexuality, as a fact of human society, is older than Christianity. Before someone is gay, they are human, and as such, have earned, and are entitled to, human rights.
    Jasper, does it make you go rogue in your pants to see two men kissing, or two women? Then don’t look. You have the choice, or is that too offensive a word for you?
    The measure of any Christian lies not in how much that Christian is forgiven, but in how much that Christian forgives.
    Of course, being of the unfashionably heterosexual persuasion myself, alas, never to be fabulous, I have little experience in being gay. I have had, and will continue to have, gay friends, family members and colleagues throughout my adult life. Apart from how they keep warm at night, I find very little difference between us. How they keep warm at night is none of my business — as it is none of yours.
    Strain at your gnat, comrade, as you swallow your camel – CTZen

  9. 9 Jasper Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:04 am

    “Jasper – how many times have you been pregnant?”

    none.

    “But I’d be interested in your explanation of what this has to do with “morality”, and why you feel you qualify as an arbiter of that category.”

    I was responding to Cornelius’s comment to me on the previous post ( can’t comment down there for reason)… he said that if we Christians don’t do a, b, c, d and e then we have no right to be against abortion.

  10. 10 Jasper Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:05 am

    * some reason *

  11. 11 Sister Prole Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:14 am

    Shouldn’t you be on your way to church right now? Is commenting on blogs any way to prepare to receive communion?

  12. 12 Cornelius T.Zen Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:22 am

    Good morrow, Jasper!
    Actually, to be fair to and with you, you have every right to oppose abortion. It is simply that your reasons for opposing abortion have little if any connection with the regard for human life. If you truly valued human life, then you would also, with appropriate fervor, oppose war, capital punishment, the abuse of children, the battery of wives and the withholding of equal rights for anyone of any race, color, creed or sexual persuasion. You would oppose anything, ANYTHING, that dictates that, for whatever reason, one human life is less worthy than another.
    This includes the idea that it is okay to shoot a doctor who provides abortion services. How very Christian of you.
    When did you stop beating your wife? – CTZen

  13. 13 Jasper Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:26 am

    Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law.

    Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner.

    The homophobia charge rings false. The vast majority of those who oppose homosexual behavior are in no way “afraid” of homosexuals. A disagreement is not the same as a fear. One can disagree with something without fearing it, and the attempt to shut down rational discussion by crying “homophobe!” falls flat. It is an attempt to divert attention from the arguments against one’s position by focusing attention on the one who made the arguments, while trying to claim the moral high ground against him.

    http://www.catholic.com/library/Homosexuality.asp

  14. 14 Jasper Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:30 am

    ” If you truly valued human life, then you would also, with appropriate fervor, oppose war, capital punishment, the abuse of children, the battery of wives and the withholding of equal rights for anyone of any race, color, creed or sexual persuasion.”

    I oppose all of those things you mentioned. However, sometimes war is necessary to protect humans. I am for equal rights of all people.

  15. 15 Jasper Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:32 am

    “Shouldn’t you be on your way to church right now?”

    I already attended mass today Dr. Prole, I’m on the east coast. did you attend?

  16. 16 Cornelius T.Zen Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Good morrow, Jasper!
    “We must reject sin…” In whose estimation, and by what standard of measurement, is a human action regarded as a sin?
    “The homophobia charge rings false. The vast majority of those who oppose homosexual behavior are in no way “afraid” of homosexuals. A disagreement is not the same as a fear.”
    You are not the vast majority, and you are in no position to speak for the vast majority. In fact, the “vast majority” don’t give two farts in a typhoon, one way or another, because it does not affect the “vast majority.” The “vocal minority”, on the other hand, display fear of such intensity as to resemble rampant and violent paranoia. You seem to be part of that “vocal minority”, which is why you’re so much fun to have around.
    “Sometimes, war is necessary…” so is corporate greed, so is embezzlement, so is fraud, so is genocide, so were the Crusades, so was the Inquisition, so was the Holocaust, so is environmental destruction, all necessary to SOMEBODY, it just depends on who you are, what you want, and what you figure you can get away with.
    “I am for equal rights of all people”: all people, Jasper? Are you sure you wanna commit yourself there? GBLT, women, non-Caucasians, non-Christians, you know, people who are DIFFERENT from you? You sure about that? You know that the readers of this blog are going to hold you to that statement.
    Is that your final answer? – CTZen

  17. 17 Sister Prole Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Oh, you KNOW I did! I’m on my way into the bedroom for a little self-flagellation as a matter of fact. Then I’m going to spend the rest of the day knitting a new hair shirt. Toodles!

  18. 18 sassy Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 9:05 am

    But I’d be interested in your explanation of what this has to do with “morality”, and why you feel you qualify as an arbiter of that category.

    You’re making incorrect assumptions.

  19. 19 Rob F Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 9:15 am

    Far too many Arabic translators have been expelled from the US military for being gay. This has to stop. Those sorts of translators are needed in the military. There is no horde of American soldiers dropping their rifles so they can run away from the gay soldier faster.

    Expelling needed personnel: a real funny way of supporting the troops.

  20. 20 Bleatmop Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    I hate to say it (I really, really, really do), but I’ll believe it when I see it. Obama has backed down every single time the Republicans have stood up to him. He has a lot of fancy talk but so few actions that I can count. He talked about closing Gitmo, but it’s still open with no concrete plan on fixing it as far as I can tell. He talked about a public option but has thrown that down the river. He could have ended don’t ask don’t tell on day one with a simple order to his generals (he is commander in chief). He could have said that no-one gets kicked out of the military until the law is officially repealed. But he hasn’t.

    I’m still hopeful campaign Obama will show up and that politician Obama will go away. Until I do, I’m only going to start to believe what he says when I see it. Maybe I’m wrong for my cynicism. Can anyone tell me why?

  21. 21 Shade Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Jasper that sin stuff is a crock of excuses. The bible has been used to oppose every major civil rights movement. Then after it no longer becomes acceptable in society they discretly change the rules or the “interpretation”.

    I don’t know whether you’ve read the thing Jasper, but I’m hoping you aren’t wearing poly cotton blends, or god will be pissed.

    Personally I don’t know why anyone myself included is gay. But I have a wonderful boyfriend, great friends and supportive family. If by your system I’m going to hell, then your system is broken and frankly I don’t want a part of it.

    Additionally if Heaven is filled with people like you, it would be my hell.

  22. 22 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    CTZen

    Nobody is equal until EVERYONE is equal.

    That’s right, you either believe in equality or you don’t — it’s that simple.

  23. 23 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Jasper

    The homophobia charge rings false. The vast majority of those who oppose homosexual behavior are in no way “afraid” of homosexuals. A disagreement is not the same as a fear.

    Jasper, Jasper, Jasper.

    If I had a dime for every time I read about the “threat” to marriage, or the “threat” to “our children”, or the “threat” to society caused by “the gay agenda”, I could retire.

    When something is perceived as a threat, that means it is feared, no?

  24. 24 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    sassy

    You’re making incorrect assumptions.

    Example? 😉

  25. 25 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Rob F

    Far too many Arabic translators have been expelled from the US military for being gay.

    This is actually pretty mindblowing. Intelligence is critical to military operations, and one of the most important intelligence personnel in countries like Iraq or Afghanistan is the translator. Translators can literally save lives, just by being able to relate information about what is going on. The fact that some of these extremely important people have been fired just because of their sexual orientation is atrocious, not just from a human rights standpoint, but because it undermines the military.

  26. 26 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Bleatmop

    I hate to say it (I really, really, really do), but I’ll believe it when I see it.

    I know the feeling… that’s why I characterized it in my post as a “tentative step” — it’s something he wants to do, probably intends to do, but actually doing it is something else again.

    I like Obama — although I would have preferred someone like Kucinich or, hell yeah, Barney Frank (if he’d been in the running) — but I can see why some progressive Dems are disappointed in his performance to date. It’s almost like the Democrats are so unaccustomed to being in power after so many years of being flogged by the GOP that they really don’t know what to do with themselves now that they’ve won this big majority.

    The people spoke last November, loudly & clearly, and said: we want a public health care option. We want to get rid of antiquated, bigoted policies like DOMA and DADT. We want to end the stupid, wasteful wars, close Guantanamo, restore Habeas Corpus, etc etc. The mandate couldn’t be clearer. I don’t know why the Dems let the GOP, who at this point are nothing but an extremist rump party, jerk them around.

  27. 27 JJ Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Shade and CTZen win the thread!

  28. 28 sassy Monday, October 12, 2009 at 6:08 am

    Whoops – Sorry JJ I MISread comments in a hurry and thought that was directed at me and from someone else. Sorry, my error (and a confusing one at that) 😉

  29. 29 toujoursdan Monday, October 12, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    The homophobia charge rings false. The vast majority of those who oppose homosexual behavior are in no way “afraid” of homosexuals. A disagreement is not the same as a fear. One can disagree with something without fearing it, and the attempt to shut down rational discussion by crying “homophobe!” falls flat.

    98 11/44% of discussion surrounding homosexuality and gay people is fear-based. This is motivated by a fear that homosexuals will somehow infect society, children or destroy families. This is by definition “homophobia” and this is found in nearly all the discussions I have seen on homosexuality I have witnessed.

    100% of the difference between the way gay people are treated and those who use artificial birth control or get a divorce are treated by Roman Catholics and the institutional Roman Catholic Church is due to “homophobia”. 100%!!!!

    Under Catholic theology they are all sins (for the same reason: denying the potential for life.) Yet gay people are treated differently by the church than divorced and ABC users. Gay people are NOT loved by the Catholic Church (unless you use “love” in the Orwellian sense which is the way many right-wingers do.) The RCC constantly campaigns against our rights – including the right to not be discriminated against or live in fear of violence. Sorry, but that isn’t love, and actions speak louder than words.

    And I’ll say it again: Thank God (!!!!!!) my parents decided to raise me Anglican and not Catholic. There is no group of people who are more dysfunctional when it comes to sexuality than the RCC. I could never belong to a church that claims to be the One True Church, particularly when it often acts so un-Christlike.

  30. 30 Frank Frink Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 12:26 am

    ( can’t comment down there for (some) reason)…

    Another sporadic attack of PEBCAK?


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