Creepy

NY-23:  the gift that keeps on giving.

 

26 Responses to “Creepy”


  1. 1 Torontonian Monday, November 2, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    “Curiouser and curiouser”, said Alice.

    New York 23 is an unreal wonderland of
    demented Republican politics.

    They keep shooting themselves in the
    foot and no-one will be able to stand up
    straight let alone run for office come
    next year’s elections.

    If they manage it right, the Democrats could
    have a good long run until 2016!
    By that time, Pat Robertson will be dead and
    many others of his kind will have passed on.

    The disparity between red and blue states will
    become more pronounced and finally a newer party
    will come forward and bury the GOP.

    Up here, we tried to bury the Reform, but they
    still hang around like so many barnacles.

    Tomorrow’s results should be very interesting.

  2. 2 Rob F Monday, November 2, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Wikipedia has a list of those who endorses Hoffman: Beck, Palin, Bachmann, Hannity, Limbaugh, Malkin; a veritable who’s who of what’s wrong with the GOP. Scozzafava was a reasonable that I could certainly respect, even consider voting for. What’s she wasn’t was a partisan, panty-sniffing, sex-obsessed wingnut.

  3. 3 JJ Monday, November 2, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Torontonian – Good point about the Reform party. Those knuckledraggers are still hanging in with the CPC like willnuts on a dog’s butt 👿 but at least they don’t have as much drag as the teabaggers seem to have with the GOP.

    What’s happening to the GOP seems to be the other way around from what happened to the Progressive Conservatives here. Instead of the wingnuts splitting off to form their own party, the wingnuts seem to be taking over from the inside out and making the party go its way, forcing moderates out.

    I think eventually the moderates will be the ones to form their own new center-right party, notwithstanding people like David Frum who say they’re determined to stay. Good luck with that.

    I find the process utterly fascinating. It’s kind of the flip side of what happened up here.

  4. 4 Jasper Monday, November 2, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    That’s good news. It’s time to cleanse the Republican party of pro-aborts. If you want abortion to be legal, join the Democrat party of death.

  5. 5 JJ Monday, November 2, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Rob F – Hoffman’s endorsement list reads like a Who’s Who of Teh Crazy and Teh Burning Stupid. Teabaggers and Godbags.

    I notice there’s a “Gun Owners of America” listed — the NRA endorsed Scozzafava, so I suspect GOoA is an astroturf from something else, like Freedomworks. (In fact, I suspect a lot of the organizations endorsing him have significant overlap, if not outright astroturfs.)

    What a circus of fools — National Organization for Marriage, the Eagle Forum for god’s sake… and of course all the talk show wingnuts. UGH.

    Yes, Scozzafava sounds like a reasonable, mind-your-own-business-type conservative, someone I might also consider voting for. As long as someone is progressive on social issues, I would always at least give them a look, regardless of party affiliation.

  6. 6 JJ Monday, November 2, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Jasper

    It’s time to cleanse the Republican party of pro-aborts.

    Indeed. “Pro-aborts” like Barry Goldwater.

    So Jasper, my little dumquat, what exactly do you think will become of the GOP after it’s “cleansed” to the point where it only represents 22% of the electorate? Does the phrase “Political Wilderness” mean anything to you?

  7. 7 Torontonian Monday, November 2, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Jasper,

    Maybe you could put down your crayons for a few minutes
    and pay attention. Make sure you’re sitting comfortably.
    ——
    I don’t imagine you know anything about Preston Manning.
    In less than a decade he created a political party and
    destroyed in from within. He was a leader and now he’s
    an outcast. Now, the only thing he has going for himself
    is his own organization named after him and promoting his
    brand of libertarianism and independent laissez-faire
    government. He preaches only to his converts and stands
    at the sidelines of daily political life. He’s ended up
    in the same place as his father, Ernest Manning,–
    unloved, ignored and pitied by his fellow conservatives.

    Both Mannings embodied the GOP-style of politics and look
    what happened to them.

    It’s coming soon to your neighbourhood.

    Now, go out and play and let the real people lead
    the discussion.

    Good boy.

  8. 8 Janus Monday, November 2, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Jasper, keep it up, there’s a good little target…

  9. 9 Dr. Prole Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 8:33 am

    So Jasper, my little dumquat, what exactly do you think will become of the GOP after it’s “cleansed” to the point where it only represents 22% of the electorate? Does the phrase “Political Wilderness” mean anything to you?

    SHHHHHHHHHH!

    Disregard that paragraph, Jasper. You keep on stickin’ it to The Man, buddy. It’s your patriotic duty to get rid of every single sane and rational person in your party! Do it for Thomas Jefferson and John Galt! YEAHHHHHHH!

  10. 10 Jasper Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Torontonian, JJ

    ~50% of Americans are pro-life. Tradionally, the more consevative candidate we run, the more success we have. (Reagan, Bush, etc)

    If the Republican party ever changes the part platform to pro-choice, many people will leave.

  11. 11 The Anti-Social Socialist Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Jasper: 99.99999% of Americans are pro-life.

    50% are beat-all-women-with-a-stick-until-they-learn-their-place.

    The rest are pro-choice.

  12. 12 Jasper Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    50% are for the sadistic drawing and quartering of unborn children

    The rest are pro-life.

  13. 13 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Jasper

    ~50% of Americans are pro-life. Tradionally, the more consevative candidate we run, the more success we have. (Reagan, Bush, etc)

    First of all, 50% may consider themselves personally “prolife”, but that doesn’t mean they want to dictate how other people run their lives. Less than 30% are such self-righteous busybodies and nosy parkers that they feel they should be able to stick their noses into other peoples’ personal lives. Otherwise how do you explain that a majority (@70%) don’t think Roe v Wade should be overturned?

    Also: now you’re saying Bush was a conservative? I thought you had clued into what a big spender he was.

    Oh, that’s right, I forgot — social “conservatives” don’t care about fiscal policy, as long as they’re allowed to peep in everyone’s keyholes, that’s all that matters.

    Look pally, the world is changing. It’s a bad idea to keep looking back at history and going “But it worked in 1984!” But I suspect you’ll have to find that out the hard way.

  14. 14 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Dr. Prole 😆 😆 😆

    Jasper – Yes! What Dr.Prole said! Ignore my babbling completely.

  15. 15 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Torontonian – The Ballad of Preston Manning should be a cautionary tale for teabaggers — what did he accomplish, anyway, other than 3 consecutive Liberal majorities?

  16. 16 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Antisocial – Actually, I’d say 100% of Americans are pro-life. But only 30% are anti-abortion.

  17. 17 The Anti-Social Socialist Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    “50% are for the sadistic drawing and quartering of unborn children”

    Strange, I didn’t think the Catholic Church was that big in the states. I know how much their god loves to kill children, though…

  18. 18 Jasper Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    True, Bush didn’t stick to his conservatives values when it came to fiscal issues.

    “First of all, 50% may consider themselves personally “prolife””

    JJ,

    personally prolife + publically pro-choice = pro-choice

    “Strange, I didn’t think the Catholic Church was that big in the states. I know how much their god loves to kill children, though…”

    weak.

  19. 19 J. A. Baker Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Look pally, the world is changing. It’s a bad idea to keep looking back at history and going “But it worked in 1984!” But I suspect you’ll have to find that out the hard way.

    Funny you should put it that way, JJ, since people like Jasper tend to see 1984 as a model rather than a cautionary tale…

  20. 20 Torontonian Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Just for your enjoyment–an article from the Watertown
    Daily Times! YES!! Watertown!!

    http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091103/NEWS03/311039958

    More than 300 people attended the fairgrounds rally!

    YES!! 300!!! Watertown!!!

  21. 21 Torontonian Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    For JJ:

    One thing that Preston Manning did not achieve was the
    conversion of Stornoway into a bingo parlour. Or do you
    remember that statement by him that he’d rather use
    the house as a bingo hall than an official residence.

    Couldn’t even do that one.

  22. 22 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Torontonian – Thanks for the link. The comments with that article were hilarious — people are pissed off! Even this paper endorsed Owens, I think.

    What a bizarre race — either way, it’s a win for the Dems. If Owens wins, it’s a totally unexpected seat for them. If Hoffman wins, it’s meaningless outside of the GOP’s inner turmoil, since the Republicans have held the seat for decades and were expected to continue doing so after today.

    But it definitely sends a message to the GOP leadership and any moderate republicans: teabaggers are taking over. The big tent is collapsing into itself.

  23. 23 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Torontonian – The bingo hall! I’d forgotten all about that. OMFG 🙄

  24. 24 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Jasper

    personally prolife + publically pro-choice = pro-choice

    That’s right, Jasper, now you’re catching on.

  25. 25 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    JAB

    Funny you should put it that way, JJ, since people like Jasper tend to see 1984 as a model rather than a cautionary tale…

    That occurred to me too — I almost typed in “1980”, but thought 1984 was more appropriate since it was the start of Reagan’s second term.

    I just think it’s funny that Jasper and his ilk think it’s a good idea to plan for the future by repeating the past. It ain’t 1984 anymore, there’s a whole new generation of adults out there (people your age), forward-thinking people and they are calling the shots, not these old farts who think longingly back to 1984.

  26. 26 Janus Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    “50% of Americans are pro-life.”

    Oh, I’d say the numbers are MUCH higher than merely half. I’d say nearly all are pro-life. Problem is, some few of them are also anti-choice on behalf of others, whose opinions they do not bother to solicit..

    “If the Republican party ever changes the part platform to pro-choice, many people will leave.”

    Oh, puff. Where would they go? Who would have them?


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