Awesome

Washington DC Council is currently holding hearings on an equal marriage bill.  Look what happened during yesterday’s hearing:

Aww, sweet.  More on the story here.

28 Responses to “Awesome”


  1. 1 psa Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    So the churches are worried that continuing to demean and belittle a portion of the population will threaten their tax advantage, I hadn’t realized the stakes were so high. Will no one think of the children… and the money.

  2. 2 Jasper Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    that type of behavoir is not appropriate, what if a child is watching this?… 2 men kiss each other, how are we suppose to explain this? ……this is not right.

  3. 3 Frank Frink Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    how are we suppose to explain this?

    Think, Jasper. Think. It’ll come to ya.

  4. 4 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    FF – Okay, that’s it. I’m almost convinced now that Jasper’s a Poe. 😆

  5. 5 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    psa – It’s the money. (Surprise!) And frankly, given its history, the thought of the Catholic church “thinking about the children” is a little disturbing.

  6. 6 RAFE Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    It’s not the money, it’s not the kids….
    It’s an abomination of nature!!

    Think. It’ll come to ya.

  7. 7 Frank Frink Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    JJ – Does Nurse Stanek know he’s a Poe? 😆

  8. 8 deBeauxOs Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Even Jasper doesn’t know he’s a Poe.

  9. 9 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    RAFE

    It’s an abomination of nature!!

    There endeth the sermon 🙄

  10. 10 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    FF – Only if Nurse Stanek is a Poe herself, which isn’t beyond the realm of possibility.

  11. 11 JJ Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    deBeauxOs – He says he’s not a Poe, but I don’t know… once in awhile he comes out with stuff that’s so bad it almost seems like a satire of a fundie.

    So the jury’s still out.

  12. 12 Janus Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Aw…that was sweet!

    Jasper, how do you “explain” to a child that Jesus kissed his own disciples? Go look in the bibble — it’s in there.

    And why would anyone need to “explain” it, anyway?

  13. 13 Jasper Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    This is nothing against gay people. I have a gay uncle and a bi-sexual friend since childhood. They came from families that had a mother and a father, thats just nature folks, can’t change it.

  14. 14 Shade Tuesday, November 3, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Geeze most kids if they saw that could care less they’d probably just make the same eww noise they’d make if they saw a straight couple kissing if anything.

    Not to mention you’re talking about a rather chaste kiss, god not like they were frenching. Kids have probably seen straight couples on TV do way worse.

    As for explaining it? God forbid people talk to their kids and tell them what they think of something instead of sheltering them.

    RAFE

    Yes that’s it repeat the same old tired opinion forced fed to you from the bible. We’ve all heard it before you think it’s an abomination of nature even though it occurs in nature. Logic flaw much?

    Oh but then you’ll say “Humans are above such baser urges” which would of course negate your previous argument. Fun. Also, you’re assuming I care what the bible says.

  15. 15 Cornelius T.Zen Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 8:08 am

    Good morrow, all!
    From Jasper: “This is nothing against gay people. I have a gay uncle and a bi-sexual friend since childhood. They came from families that had a mother and a father, thats just nature folks, can’t change it.”
    Then why do you oppose it? Gay marriage is an affirmation of marriage. Marriage is commitment. Considering that 50% of straight marriages will end in divorce, it is refreshing to see two people making that commitment in the eyes of their fellow citizens. Marriage is commitment. Not a metaphor, not a simile, not an a analogy, it is the very definition of commitment.
    Perhaps you are influenced by the idea that gays cannot make that commitment. Let them try, they may surprise you.
    If you are offended by the sight of two men or two women kissing each other, then don’t look. You have the (dare I say it?) choice. Don’t like gay marriage? Don’t have one.
    Every day, I wake up to the love of my life. Every night, I come home to a meal prepared by the best cook in the world. Every evening, I share entertainment with my best friend. All of these people are the same person, and I am grateful for every moment of it. I would not deny this feeling to anyone, for any reason.
    Let gays marry. The slaves were freed, the world did not end. Women got the vote, the world did not end. Abortion was made legal, the world did not end. Gays will be allowed to marry, the world will not end.
    Thank you for your comments, Jasper and Rafe. Some people come unarmed to a battle of wits – it’s fun to see two such people come bound, gagged and blindfolded.
    Good night, and may your God go with you – CTZen

  16. 16 JJ Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Janus

    And why would anyone need to “explain” it, anyway?

    I think maybe Jasper underestimates the openness and basic goodness of children, before they get poisoned by adult prejudices. Bigotry is a learned response.

  17. 17 JJ Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Jasper

    thats just nature folks, can’t change it.

    😯

    Are you saying that being gay is just nature? I’m surprised to see you get something right for a change…

    And if that’s what you’re saying, then why would you keep them from marrying, unless you just want to be mean to them just for being who they are…?

  18. 18 JJ Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Shade

    Geeze most kids if they saw that could care less they’d probably just make the same eww noise they’d make if they saw a straight couple kissing if anything.

    😆 Yeah, that’s kind of what I thought, too. Kids are pretty open-minded until they get indoctrinated with prejudices, but one thing they find universally “icky” is kissing — no matter who’s doing it!

  19. 19 JJ Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 11:47 am

    CTZen – I’m not sure exactly what Jasper’s trying to say — but maybe he’ll enlarge upon it later.

    If he knows that it’s just nature, then it’ll be interesting to see why he thinks it’s okay to treat these natural gay people as second class citizens. Something doesn’t compute…

  20. 20 Bleatmop Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    “If he knows that it’s just nature, then it’ll be interesting to see why he thinks it’s okay to treat these natural gay people as second class citizens. Something doesn’t compute…”

    It makes perfect sense to me. He doesn’t care about natural laws or certain inalienable rights bestowed upon all persons. What he cares about are the laws of Bronze Age Men, or as he calls them, God’s Laws. As an aside, this is how we know Chef Emeril was a theist as he kept saying B.A.M. every time created something tastey in order to praise his gods.

  21. 21 The Anti-Social Socialist Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    “thats just nature folks, can’t change it.”

    Well… being black is just nature, so I suppose you ought to start fighting to restrict the rights of Black folks again Jasper.

    And women. Just nature’s way and, well, flawed according to your Bible. Letting them vote is a huge mistake then, get onto fighting that.

  22. 22 Bina Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Cornelius, you used logic. That’s why the crickets are chirping… 😆

  23. 23 Jasper Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    “Abortion was made legal, the world did not end.”

    easy for you to say Cornelius, you were not aborted.

  24. 24 Cornelius T.Zen Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Good morrow, all!
    Some of the more vocal, if somewhat less articulate. commenters to this blog are of the opinion that gay marriage is “an abomination of nature.” Which only illustrates how little they understand of nature.
    Human males are, by their very nature, shall we say, commitment-challenged. Let’s face it, people – guys are dogs. Given the opportunity, they would hump just about anything with a pulse that stood still long enough. Guys just want to get off, and get back to the game. With regard to commitment, perhaps Rita Rudner put it best:
    “Whenever I want to end a relationship, all I have to say is, ‘I love you, I want to marry you, I want to have children with you.’ Sometimes they leave skid marks.”
    Marriage, that is, legally-enforced committed monogamy, is an abomination to the nature of the human male.
    Therefore, if you can get two guys to make a lifelong commitment to one another, and keep it, you have accomplished something.
    Yes, nature dictates that reproduction requires, most of the time anyway, that male and female reproductive cells be involved.
    However, the question is not one of reproduction, but of the commitment that is called marriage.
    Very few animals mate for life. Very few animals see the necessity. I have already covered the original and traditional purposes of marriage in a previous submission.
    It is now, in case this has escaped the notice of some, the 21st Century. 50% of straight marriages in North America are bound to end in divorce, and, in American states that supposedly follow “conservative principles,” the incidence of divorce is even higher. The conservatives of North America are setting a fine example, are they not?
    Let gays marry. Who knows? Maybe they’ll teach the rest of us the true meaning of commitment. – CTZen

  25. 25 Jasper Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    “Marriage is commitment. Not a metaphor, not a simile, not an a analogy, it is the very definition of commitment.”

    No, it is not. Marriage is a union of a man and a woman

    Cornelious,

    If you were a child and had to choose what parents you would have, which would you choose?

    1. Father and Mother
    2. 2 Fathers
    3. 2 Mothers

  26. 26 Cornelius T.Zen Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Good morrow, Jasper!
    First of all, my name is spelled “Cornelius” and not “Cornelious.” All you have to do is read my submissions. We know you can read.
    Secondly, marriage is a word often used to describe commitments other than “a union of a man and a woman.” People often describe other people as being “married to their work,” or “married to a cause.” A chef will tell you that it takes time for flavors to “marry” properly in a prepared dish of food.
    The question here is simple: In what way does the committed union of two people of the same gender cause damage to you, or anyone you care about, or anyone you know? Does it mean that your marriage will end through no fault, other than that you are aware of two men or two women getting married? Does it mean that your wife will leave you for another woman, or you will leave her for another man?
    Fear is nothing more than the anticipation of pain. What pain do you anticipate, especially to yourself?
    All negative response to what you see, hear, or become aware of, boils down to fear. Why do you fear gay marriage? I certainly do not, and I would venture that my marriage, which is probably a little older than your own, is in no danger from having every gay person of my acquaintance, suddenly, happily, march their merry way down the aisle.
    You would deny happiness to these people. That, my friend, is MY definition of evil.
    As for choosing parents, I would choose any two people who would genuinely love each other and me. You would deny me that love.
    Good night, and may your God go with you – CTZen

  27. 27 Janus Thursday, November 5, 2009 at 5:00 am

    “…easy for you to say Cornelius, you were not aborted.”

    ???

    Sonny, next time you sit down at your keyboard, you wanna put the thought seeds into the logic machine before you engage the fingers’ clutch?

    “Marriage is a union of a man and a woman.”

    That’s only one view, and it’s a pretty limited one, useful only as a strictly personal definition towards one’s own self. There are others, just as legitimate. Cooks use the term incessantly.

    For example, when you add a little water to eggs before you beat them in order to make an omelet, that’s marriage.

    Putting any combination of ingredients into a blender or food processor and combining them into a new form — that’s marriage.

    “Marriage” in the modern sense is simply the combining of ingredients into a new form. There is no gender. There isn’t even a number.

  28. 28 Janus Thursday, November 5, 2009 at 5:01 am

    “You would deny happiness to these people. That, my friend, is MY definition of evil.”

    Oh, well said! Huzzah!


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