Elie Wiesel trounces teabaggers on twitter

As usual, pig-ignorance was out on full display at the teabaggers rally in DC yesterday.  Of particular note was this sign, which compared the public healthcare option to a Nazi death camp:

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The despicable poster didn’t go unnoticed by activist and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel, who tweeted yesterday:

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“The GOP Tea Party” — that’s ouchy.  But let us not forget that yesterday’s rally wasn’t  merely the result of astroturfing by the usual “grassroots” groups like Freedomworks.  This time it was a GOP congresswoman that led the parade of piggery and Republican leaders  welcomed  it, spoke at it and generally went along for the ride, owning it for the first time.

As over-the-top as the “Dachau” sign was, it’s not the first time sleazy Nazi imagery has been employed in the Epic Battle Against Health Care.  Among the overwhelmingly WASPy teabaggers, insulting Jews is getting to be a habit.

(via Wonkette)

43 Responses to “Elie Wiesel trounces teabaggers on twitter”


  1. 1 Torontonian Friday, November 6, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    ” . . . But let us not forget that yesterday’s rally wasn’t merely the result of astroturfing by the usual “grassroots” groups like Freedomworks. This time it was a GOP congresswoman that led the parade of piggery and Republican leaders welcomed it, spoke at it and generally went along for the ride, owning it for the first time. . . . ”

    ——-

    Throw into that whole thing the fact that Mr. Boehner couldn’t tell the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. He cited one and called it the other. Republicans in behind him had worried looks on their faces.

    Not a clue in a closet these people have. They wouldn’t know a Nobel Prize for Literature if they saw it.

    Apparently, only the intelligent read Elise Weisel.

  2. 2 Phatbiker Friday, November 6, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Saw that sign and others on Huffpost. These nuckleheads are one short step away from lynch mob. If health care reform fails because of these assholes I hope their private health care providers rape them financially then screw them when they need them most.

  3. 3 Jasper Friday, November 6, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    I personally take offense to comparing 6 million jews killed by Nazis vs 50 million US babies killed by pro-choicers.

    The Nazis would never stoop to the level of pro-choicers.

  4. 4 J. A. Baker Friday, November 6, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    So Jasper, are you sympathizing with the Nazis, or something? 😈

  5. 5 Jasper Friday, November 6, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    JA,

    It was a joke, relax.

  6. 6 Bleatmop Friday, November 6, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Nothing like a joke about the holocaust to prove what a bigot you are.

  7. 7 Dr. Prole Saturday, November 7, 2009 at 7:44 am

    Being half Jewish and 1/4 Ukranian (read: my family personally affected by the Holocaust, you asshole), I find your “joke” fucking sick and offensive. I really wish you’d go away.

  8. 8 toujoursdan Saturday, November 7, 2009 at 7:50 am

    Jasper needs to study his own Catholic history. For most of Church history a foetus wasn’t considered a human being or “ensouled” until its “quickening” (movement).

    Pope Innocent XI said:

    34. It is lawful to procure abortion before ensoulment of the foetus lest a girl, detected as pregnant, be killed or defamed.

    35. It seems probable that the foetus (as long as it is in the uterus) lacks a rational soul and begins to first have one when it is born; and consequently it must be said that no abortion is homicide.

    It wasn’t until 1869 did the RCC change its view and decide that foetuses were ensouled at conception. It wasn’t until the 20th Century did the church change its view and decide that all abortion was murder.

    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoulment

    So for almost two millenia Catholics would have no problem with the 90% of abortions that occur nowadays, and given that almost all late term abortions happen because of serious deformities or the mother’s health was in danger, they wouldn’t have had a problem with most of the rest either.

    This is a completely manufactured faux-rage.

  9. 9 Phatbiker Saturday, November 7, 2009 at 8:58 am

    I find it puzzling that the anti-choise crowd are also against universal health care. Many Canadians living in the US come home to have their babys because it’s free here but can cost up to $35000 to give birth in the good ol’ USA. If I where anti-choise I would be all for universal health care, sex ed, the use and easy availability of contraception.
    In Iran (where abortion is forbidden) the birth rate is the same as the US, but sex ed including contraception is MANDITORY before a couple can wed there. Iran is the largest producer of condoms in the middle east.

  10. 10 Jasper Saturday, November 7, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Dr. Prole,

    Sorry about that. I didn’t mean to disrespect jews in any way. I’m a strongly pro-Israel btw and always have been. Can’t say that for many libs.

  11. 11 J. A. Baker Saturday, November 7, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Yeah, sure, Jasper. You’re only “pro-Israel” as a means of accelerating the rapture so that the Jews can convert or go to hell.

    Doesn’t get much more anti-Semitic than that. 👿

  12. 12 Dr. Prole Saturday, November 7, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Jasper – apology not accepted, you sicko. How’s about next time you think before you make a “joke” at the expense of 6 million or so dead fully formed persons who were systematically persecuted and brutally put to death. People who were more than a clump of cells the size of a lima bean with no brain or nervous system, people who were much, MUCH more than potential human beings. Your continued insistence that the Holocaust at the hands of Hitler is similar to abortion is just sick and wrong.

    P.S. Jokes are supposed to be funny. That’s what makes them jokes. There is nothing remotely funny about the Holocaust. You’d do well to remember that.

  13. 13 Jasper Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 10:17 am

    “people who were much, MUCH more than potential human beings.”

    Dr,

    unborn children are not ‘potential’ human beings, they are human beings, no matter how small.

  14. 14 Dr. Prole Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 10:31 am

    Nope. Potential. Thus, your equation of abortion, especially 1st trimester which is when the VAST majority of abortions are performed, with the Holocaust, is offensive, sick and wrong. The fact that you’d make a 9yr old rape victim continue a pregnancy that would kill her is fucking SICK and WRONG.

    And I still don’t accept your apology, and I still wish you’d go away.

  15. 15 Janus Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 10:54 am

    Jasper, fetuses are not “unborn children” any more than they are people.

    Children have been born. Unborn means they are not yet children.

    Just like you are not yet a corpse.

  16. 16 Bleatmop Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    Undead but not unhuman. Zombie rights for freedom!

  17. 17 Jasper Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Dr. Prole,

    You need to retake biology 101.

    “Biology is crystal clear that at the moment of conception (also known as fertilization), a unique, organism comes into existence. Since this new life possesses human DNA and is the offspring of human parents, it can legitimately only be described as human life.

    Since there can be no question that human zygotes, embryos and fetuses are alive, some have attempted to claim that human beings are not “persons,” until some threshold is crossed, such as viability, the capacity to feel pain, birth, or even the first year after birth. The merits of such notions can be debated, but it should be clear that they are not based on science but rather on ideology, philosophy or belief.

    As far as observable science is concerned, human life begins at conception.”

  18. 18 Jasper Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    “The fact that you’d make a 9yr old rape victim continue a pregnancy that would kill her”

    No, it wouldn’t kill her. Have you ever heard of a c-section?

  19. 19 JJ Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Torontonian

    Mr. Boehner couldn’t tell the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

    Which goes to show he listens to Glenn Beck. Wasn’t it Beck that also made that mistake recently? Or Rush… it was one of them.

  20. 20 JJ Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Phatbiker – Yes, looking at that crowd and their signs (especially that one), I was wondering how long before they drop the pretense and the white hoods come out.

  21. 21 JJ Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    toujoursdan – I notice it’s been over 24 hours since you posted, and Jasper has yet to address the contents of said post.

    Maybe Pope Innocent XI was a “PINO” — “Pope In Name Only”

  22. 22 JJ Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Phatbiker – Antichoicers are against universal health care because (1) they think it covers abortion, and (2) Many of them (certainly most of the Catholic ones) oppose contraception as well, so the idea that universal health care will make contraception easier to obtain doesn’t impress them.

    Interesting info about Iran, BTW. I didn’t know any of that.

  23. 23 JJ Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Jasper

    unborn children are not ‘potential’ human beings

    By that logic, an ounce of bituminous coal is worth $20,000 because it’ll be a diamond some day.

    Actually, are you a drug cop? They use the same kind of math when they report that they seized some pot plants “with a street value of $20,000 each”.

  24. 24 JJ Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    JAB

    You’re only “pro-Israel” as a means of accelerating the rapture so that the Jews can convert or go to hell.

    Jasper’s a Catholic, he doesn’t believe in the rapture. I suspect he just supports Israel because he hates Muslims.

  25. 25 Dr. Prole Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Jasper, YOU are the one who needs to retake biology. In a 9-yr old girl, pregnant with twins, letting them grow to the size/age of viability so that a C-section could be performed would be what killed her! Duh! And how nice of you to be so willing to make this poor victimized child live for the rest of her life with the stigma of being the mother to twins conceived in an abomination, tying her to her rapist forever and ever. Your type of Catholic is always so accomodating to people who rape children. Sick and wrong.

  26. 26 Jasper Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    “And how nice of you to be so willing to make this poor victimized child live for the rest of her life with the stigma of being the mother to twins conceived in an abomination, tying her to her rapist forever and ever.”

    http://www.rebeccakiessling.com/

  27. 28 Frank Frink Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Jasper, if you’re going to just cut and paste a response at the very least least cite your source, please. Even better if you hyperlink. (re: your 2:41pm comment.)

    I’m being polite… for now.

  28. 29 Jasper Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Frank,

    I put it in quotes, that basic knowledge is in many textbooks.

  29. 30 hemmingforddogblog Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Wow! She’s an industry!

  30. 31 Frank Frink Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Frank,

    I put it in quotes, that basic knowledge is in many textbooks.

    Jasper, avoiding answering the question = FAIL.

    Which textbook did you quote? Who is the author? Who is the publisher? For which level of education is the textbook written? For which educational jurisdiction(s) is this ‘textbook’ approved?

    Linky please?

  31. 32 Bleatmop Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Frank Frank – You beat me to it. A simple google search shows at least 5 sites where that entire post is listed word for word.

    Jasper – Perhaps in your infinite wisdom of copy and pasting you could actually come up with an actual biology book that says that a zygote can be considered human life. I’ve only ever seen creationist “science” (aka bullshit) that says that.

  32. 33 Jasper Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    anybody who buys a pack of condomns knows when life starts…

  33. 34 Shade Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Not everybody who buys a pack of condoms is trying to avoid a pregnancy Jasper. Condoms prevent aids, and other STDs although the Pope will try to tell you otherwise.

    And they don’t buy them because they believe life starts at conception, it’s just easier to slip some latex on then anything else.

  34. 35 fern hill Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    I’m torn. In another thread, I voted Jasper off the island. While I’m enjoying the smarty-pants’ responses to his idiocies, I’m getting kinda tired of his talking-points-only comments.

    And his spelling.

    Jasper is a dime a dozen. Same old, same old.

  35. 36 Frank Frink Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Indeed, Fern Hill. The quality of trolls has declined heavily in recent years. I blame outsourcing.

  36. 37 Janus Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    “No, it wouldn’t kill her. Have you ever heard of a c-section?”

    It was not the birth process that was putting her life in danger, it was the pregnancy itself. It was putting an intolerable strain on her heart, her kidneys, and her entire body. She would not have lived long enough to make a C-section allowable.

    “…that basic knowledge is in many textbooks.”

    And not in others. And what KINDS of textbooks?

    “anybody who buys a pack of condomns knows when life starts…”

    And I say that when you are talking about — and trying to define — a human life, it starts at birth.

    Question settled, now? Wanna see my receipt as proof of my expertise?

    Fern…yeah, he’s an annoying little turd, but it keeps us sharp combing him out of out fur, doesn’t it?

    Frank, you blame outsourcing and I was about to blame inbreeding. Maybe the outsourcers are inbreeding because they can’t convince the rest of the world to “dance” with them?

  37. 38 Janus Sunday, November 8, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    “…out of OUR fur…”

  38. 39 Reality Bites Monday, November 9, 2009 at 3:57 am

    It may keep us sharp, but it’s a fairly pointless exercise.

    It’s like a dinner party for adults where someone’s brought their 3-year-old who’s just discovered farting.

  39. 40 Janus Monday, November 9, 2009 at 6:09 am

    😆 True, but if the adults manage to rein in their natural impulses for a long enough period of time, eventually the 3-year-old will live long enough to know that farting is NOT acceptable dinner conversation.

  40. 41 RealityBites Monday, November 9, 2009 at 9:29 am

    I’ve seen no signs that Jasper is capable of this kind of growth. It’s not merely his opinions on abortion, offensive as they are in their own right. It’s his unrelenting hostility and offensiveness. He’s proof of what Christianity really is – not a moral code to live by, as are most religions – but a “get out of being an asshole free” card. Behave like the most loathsome, disgusting creature you can possibly be and it’s OK – you’re going to heaven because you’ve accepted Christ as your saviour and he died for your sins.

    Christianity isn’t a way to live. It’s a way to force other people to live. As a Christian you always have the “forgive me, I have sinned” card in your back pocket. It’s a faith for moral midgets.

  41. 42 Janus Monday, November 9, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    “Christianity isn’t a way to live. It’s a way to force other people to live.”

    Oh, good one! I’m putting that in my quotes file!

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    (Here’s a hot article I just saw on the web! – Karl)

    PRETRIB RAPTURE RUSTLERS

    To see the long hidden side of the 179-year-old, British-invented-and-American-merchandised, apocalyptic “rapture” mania, Google “Pretrib Rapture Diehards,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers)” (the sloppy copyist “genius” that Lindsey, LaHaye and other “rapture” tycoons lean on!), “LaHaye’s Temperament,” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “Thieves’ Marketing,” “Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “The Newest Pretrib Calendar,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism” and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” for starters. The author of these items plus the bestselling nonfiction book “The Rapture Plot” (available online) is journalist/historian Dave MacPherson who has uniquely focused for 40 years on the bizarre history of this endtime craze which is anti-Jewish, anti-Catholic and anti- just about everyone else! MacPherson is the one who has researched throughout Britain and aired so much rapturesque “dirty linen” he’s found behind the scenes (clever revisionism of early 19th century documents, rampant plagiarism, phony doctorates, Swaggart-type scandals etc.) that he is now No. 1 on the hate lists of the leading “rapture” money-changers! As everyone’s black, dust-covered book says, “There is nothing hidden that won’t be revealed….”


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