Climate Capers

I’ve been remiss in not keeping up on the climate science, uh, debate(?), but in trying to catch up I’ve found one of the best places for information (that isn’t dripping with saliva) is DeSmogBlog. DSB is a great source of reality-based information to offset the horrible shitload of bad craziness currently being crapped out on this topic as the Sphinctersphere rapidly and repeatedly voids itself. (“Climategate“!!!  Wooooo!  SHRIEK!  *blat*)

That said, there have been some pretty alarming developments around this issue recently, like this story from a couple of days ago about an attempted break-in by people trying to gain access to data at the Canadian Centre for Climate Modeling & Analysis at UVic:

According to sources at the University of Victoria, two people claiming to be network computer technicians presented themselves at the headquarters of the Canadian Centre for Climate Modeling and Analysis and tried to gain access to the data servers. When challenged by an employee, the two individuals hastily left. The timing of this attempted break-in is very suspicious given that it occurred so closely on the heels of the release of hacked emails and data from a similar facility housed at the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in the UK.

Criminal conspiracy?  Stay tuned.

Also worth checking out is, a new site set up to deal with the fuckery that’s afoot regarding the hacked CRU emails.  Swifthack is reporting a disturbing story about how two of the CRU scientists (of hacked email fame) have received death threats:

Two of the scientists involved in “Climategate” – the e-mail hacking incident at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, UK – have been emailed death threats since the contents of their private e-mails were leaked to the world. No further information can be revealed about these particular threats at present because they are currently under investigation with the FBI in the United States.

Discover Magazine also posted a link to, and some of the comments at the post give you an idea of the willful ignorance of the opposition to climate science.  Is it a coincidence that these are often the same people who believe in “creationism”?  As one of the rational commenters remarks:

Those who are opposed to science will remain opposed to science regardless of the evidence. They will parrot the same line of discredited arguments no matter how many times those arguments are refuted. They will slander thousands of scientists and proclaim their love for a talk radio or Fox News blowhard.

These people are beyond hope.

(h/t BigCityLib)

8 Responses to “Climate Capers”

  1. 1 Shade Tuesday, December 8, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Frankly I’m sick of them sticking gate on the end of these things, how about some originality?

    But yeah, the anti-science crowd is ussually beyond reason. Of course as I said earlier they hate it so much because they don’t understand it. Of course you have the people such as your self JJ who don’t understand so you do the research, that’s what everyone should do.

  2. 2 Phatbiker Tuesday, December 8, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    These people will grasp at any straw to discredit global warming. Anyone with half a brain, who has lived in the same local for the last 30 years will have felt it’s effects (except in the citys which have their own micro-climate). When I moved to the Arrow lakes 40 years ago, we would have three feet of snow by now (today 1/2 an inch) which was considered normal back then. All kinds of new insects have appeared and others, their populations have exploded (stink bugs, pine beetles, wasps, nasty ants etc.). Summers are longer and a LOT hotter, and forest fires happen a lot more often. You also have to factor in global dimming (the shading of the planet provided by pollution, smoke, con-trails, and other man-made shit in the air), without which we would be feeling the effects of global warming even more. We are fucked no matter what we do, if the ice caps melt and dump mega-tons of fresh water in the ocean, it could trigger an other ice age.

  3. 3 JJ Tuesday, December 8, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Shade – It’s becoming pretty tiresome, especially after all the fauxtrages since Obama was elected, everything is -gate this and -gate that. They were listing all the “gates” at LGF yesterday, and wow: it’s pretty amazing when you look at them all piled up together.

    Burger-gate! Bill Ayers-gate! Sekrit Muzlim-gate! School speech-gate! Arrrggghh

  4. 4 Shade Tuesday, December 8, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    We had ute-gate here and something else as well so you can add those to the list.

  5. 5 JJ Tuesday, December 8, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    phatbiker – It’s weird, for some reason people don’t go back that far. We’ve had a few weird winters lately — especially last year, ass-deep in snow for 2 whole months, that never happens here — and to them that means there’s no AGW.

    My (admittedly not very deep) understanding of it is that global warming doesn’t necessarily cause hot weather (yet), it just causes WEIRD weather. And if the polar ice caps are melting, it’s reasonable to think that the water temperature might be dropping (think of ice cubes in a glass of coke – as they melt, the coke gets colder), and this could be interfering with the El Nino that gives us mild winters.

    Anyway, you’re right about the long-term view. Last winter the main topic of convo around here was the weather, and I was amazed at some of the stories from the elders who can remember 50-60 years ago. They were calling us all wimps because, like you’re saying, they could remember when winters were so cold that they were able to walk across Ladysmith Harbour. Ladysmith Harbour has NEVER frozen over in the 20 years I’ve been here, not even at the edges.

    So something is happening, it should be obvious to anyone with 2 halves to rub together. Geez.

  6. 6 JJ Tuesday, December 8, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Shade – What was ute-gate? 😆

  7. 7 Shade Tuesday, December 8, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Oh it was a pretty silly thing. Means absolutely nothing outside of Australia.

  8. 8 J. A. Baker Wednesday, December 9, 2009 at 8:57 am

    My (admittedly not very deep) understanding of it is that global warming doesn’t necessarily cause hot weather (yet), it just causes WEIRD weather.

    This is why Thom Hartmann prefers to call it “atmospheric deterioration.” Although, I suspect that even that isn’t entirely accurate.

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