Go Al

“I’ve never seen a member denied an extra minute or so”…. except when I did it.

There, fixed it for ya, Mac.

UPDATE: Rachel Maddow wonders why the video record of McCain doing this very thing is missing from the C-SPAN archives…

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12 Responses to “Go Al”

  1. 1 skdadl Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Did you have the same ear-experience I did, JJ, when McCain says “I think it harms the comity of the Senate”? Did you have to stop and run that word “comity” through your brain a couple of times before you were sure he hadn’t said “comedy”?

    The bricklefritzin’ comity of the Senate is driving me bricklefritzin’ crazy. I used to admire their mannerliness, but I’m now just chewing on nails and wishing the esteemed senators would start to swear at each other.

  2. 2 JJ Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 11:15 am

    skdadl – 😆 Yes! I did! I don’t know if it’s because Al Franken was the centre of the video or what, because at first I heard “comedy”.

    The US House & Senate has gone completely sideways 😦 Who could have imagined that the Dems would win such huge majorities and be unable to use them… and for the most part, it’s their own people taking them down. Those fucking blue dogs and that shit-eating Lieberman 👿

  3. 3 Torontonian Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    I believe that McCain was quite right using the
    word comity. There is a definition for it here
    at Princeton University’s website which is:


    comity (a state or atmosphere of harmony or mutual civility and respect)

    Granted, it isn’t used often. Polity isn’t used often either
    but one thing I do know is that Senator McCain has a higher
    vocabulary than most of us.

  4. 4 JJ Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Torontonian – Oh, he was right, it was the right word to use… it’s just that “comedy” automatically comes to mind first in any situation involving Al Franken. (That’s my story, anyway…)

  5. 5 Bleatmop Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    JJ – The democrats biggest problem is that after 6 years of Bush, they wanted to win so bad that they allowed Republicans Blue Dogs to run as democrats. If they actually just ran progressives in those states during the height of Bush’s unpopularity they might have an actual majority right now, instead of one in name only.

  6. 6 West End Bob Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    The longer this sausage-making process of making laws goes on, the worse the bill gets for the citizens. In the interest of “bi-partisanship” and the “comity” of the Senate, any real “reform” has been thrown to the wayside. As it is now, the only winners of this “reform” are the insurance giants due to the mandated payments from the public.

    I’m with Howard Dean: Scrap it and start over with a bill that really is reform . . . .

  7. 7 JJ Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Bleatmop – Their tent’s a little too big, in other words.

    Guys like Nelson and especially Stupak should be Republicans — there shouldn’t be any place for that kind of anti-choice extremism in the Democratic Party.

    The only trouble is, probably they wouldn’t have won Nebraska with a progressive Dem running. It’s a really red state, usually. But Stupak! He’s from Michigan, they don’t need him there. A gun-toting liberal could win there.

  8. 8 JJ Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    West End Bob – Howard Dean makes a good case for scrapping the healthcare bill and passing something more progressive by reconciliation(?). Dean’s opposition is significant because all along he’s been a strong supporter, even after the public option was dumped.

    I don’t know. On one hand, I agree with Dr.Dean that this is not real reform… especially with a mandate to buy, which just helps the insurance companies. OTOH, I wish they would pass something/anything and make changes to it later if they can, because I’m afraid that if they scrap it at this point, it’ll never happen.

  9. 9 fern hill Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    I can’t remember where I read this, but one theory on why the Rethuglicans are so opposed to any kind of public option, single-payer, anything like what we got here, is that the people would LOVE it and vote in Democrats forever.

    Yeah, the Dem tent is too big. They played this badly. And I still like Dr. Dean.

  10. 10 JJ Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    You read it here 8) That’s my theory.

    If the US got single payer, after a year or two of seeing how well it works and how it saves peoples’ lives for minimal cost, and never having to worry about getting sick and going bankrupt, even the teabaggers would become Obama’s biggest supporters. It can’t have escaped the GOP that in Canada Tommy Douglas is revered by almost everyone, even 40 years later, for giving us universal health care.

    And of course there’s the added benefit that the GOP would have to explain why they never brought in healthcare reform in all the years that they were in power, and why they did everything humanly possible to stop it when the Dems tried to bring it in. Uncomfortable! 😆

  11. 11 fern hill Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Sorry ’bout that, JJ. Can I blame my cold again? I haven’t been sick in freakin’ years. I forgot how stoopid a clogged head makes me.

  12. 12 Bleatmop Saturday, December 19, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    JJ – It’s my humble opinion that it’s better to lose without Nelson than win with him. Having guys like him in the party is only making their base angry in other swing states and changing the composition of the base in that state.

    I believe it was Howard Dean that wanted to try and win in all 50 states (don’t quote me, working on faulty memory alone). Unfortunately if you pick the guy that you think is going to win in every state instead of the guy that’s going to support and advance your cause, you end up in the situation that the Dems are currently in. That is to say the unprecedented impotent super-majority. 60 Dems should be is enough to ram through any bill, but only if 60 of those democrats are democrats.

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