Going prorogue

*Groan*

Next up:  Harper communicates his Deep Thoughts to the rest of Canada via weekly dispatches on his Facebook page.

Come on Steve, Christmas is over.  We eagerly await your next note.  Or at least a tweet.

17 Responses to “Going prorogue”


  1. 1 J. A. Baker Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Do you get the feeling that Il Douche (as CC likes to call him) fears the notion of another election and is resorting to such parliamentary chicanery in order to artificially extend his reign of error?

  2. 2 Torontonian Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    He’s staving off his own execution. Given his behaviour in the last little while, the Conservative Party will have a leadership review before the next election and
    Harper will be gone. His replacement won’t take over right away until after the next election’s results are in. (Shades of Chretien-Martin, here).

    The next leader won’t be a sitting MP since most of those in the House are damaged or tainted and the populace won’t have
    any of them as leader. Could you imagine Flaherty, Prentice, or Clement or Kenney or Toews as a future leader?

    It’ll have to be a clean sweep and probably a house cleaning much like 1993 with the likes of Kim Campbell succeeding
    Brian Mulroney.

  3. 3 JJ Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    JAB – I don’t know what’s going on — I thought the Conservatives’ approval rating was reasonably high before this little manoeuver — about 39%, within spitting distance of a majority.

    It’s probably a pre-election move, to keep things quiet leading up to a spring election.

    People don’t like it though, so who knows.

  4. 5 JJ Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Torontonian

    Given his behaviour in the last little while, the Conservative Party will have a leadership review before the next election and Harper will be gone.

    Ya think? Who else then? I can’t see going into an election with a brand new leader.

  5. 6 Torontonian Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    JJ

    If the Conservatives go into the next election with Harper
    at the helm, he will drag them down to opposition status.
    He fears his own public execution and humiliation, hence
    the prorogation. He’s staving off the decisive day because
    he has NO BALLS. But he has a bad temper and he is a sore
    loser and his party and Canada are sick and tired of
    all this nonsense coming from him.

  6. 7 Cornelius T.Zen Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Good morrow, all!
    Actually, somebody discovered the emails between Harpoon and Al-Queda, wherein he promises sanctuary to terrorists in return for them not blowing up 24 Sussex Drive…until he moves out…
    What? You wanted to make sense of this? As Gerard Butler, in the movie “300”, might have said it: THIS! IS! CANADA!
    Stuffin’ Harpoon – giving the douchebags of the world a very unsavory reputation – CTZen

  7. 8 mouthyorange Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 5:57 am

    Torontonian,

    I think you are probably right about his deeper and personal psychological motivations, but I don’t think you’re right about what will happen. I think the Canadian public is caught in a daze right now. Clear thinking doesn’t seem to be possible collectively, only within individuals. Harper is partly responsible for this by whipping it up to exploit it, but only partly. But it’s the only thing that gives him power, because he would have none in a real, true, open, legitimate process. Which is why he doesn’t want one.

    Those who are only capable of primal reactivity out of rage, anger, hatred, confusion, and resentment and the pseudo-“thinking” process those reactions generate make up the core of his supporters. Without them reacting in his favour, he’d not even have enough support to lead the Opposition. And the engineered imagery around him would fade away and he would appear once again as the powerless, mean-spirited, small-minded loser he really is.

    Those who are capable of thinking clearly can’t seem to get any collective traction. The Liberals, our usual vehicle for keeping things at least halfway decent on a number of fronts, seem to be lost in space right now. And we don’t seem to have any other effective way to organize to get rid of this troublemaking, dangerous man.

    I wish you were right. But I fear things are in far graver condition than that.

    I’m not as clear as I want to be but I haven’t had my caffeine yet.

  8. 9 J. A. Baker Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 6:13 am

    JJ wrote:

    Ya think? Who else then? I can’t see going into an election with a brand new leader.

    Torontonian wrote:

    If the Conservatives go into the next election with Harper at the helm, he will drag them down to opposition status

    That would seem to put the Harper Party of Canada in a Catch 22, wouldn’t it? If they go with Harper in the next election, they’ll likely lose. If they go into the election with someone new (and they’d have to, given what you’re saying about the taint on the possible contenders), they won’t be able to build up enough name recognition and political capital with the new guy in time to make a decent showing in the next election.

    So their only option (as they see it) is prorogation, even though it burns through their remaining political good will with the electorate like a Kuwaiti oil field and contributes to the sense that Ottawa isn’t getting things done/is not responsive to the needs of the Canadian people.

    Damned if they do, damned if they don’t, damned if they take the third way.

    Do I have it about right?

  9. 10 J. A. Baker Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 6:21 am

    Based on mouthy’s assessment that came in while I was typing my above comment, I would like to add that prorogation was probably made more attractive be the fact that the opposition isn’t in much better shape.

  10. 11 JJ Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Torontonian

    If the Conservatives go into the next election with Harper
    at the helm, he will drag them down to opposition status.

    I don’t know… I think he’s more worried about getting another minority. I thought they might find another leader after 2 minorities, but 3? Harper would be toast.

    I haven’t seen anything from the other parties that would indicate Harper has too much to worry about from them, unless they form a coalition.

  11. 12 JJ Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 11:59 am

    CTZen

    Actually, somebody discovered the emails between Harpoon and Al-Queda, wherein he promises sanctuary to terrorists in return for them not blowing up 24 Sussex Drive…until he moves out…

    😆 How soon do you think that will be?

  12. 13 JJ Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    mouthyorange – I think if there was an election today, Harper would wiin another minority government.

    I haven’t seen anything spectacularly special from the other parties that would make people really really want to vote for them — IMO, with the exception of hard core partisans, Canadians will continue to vote for the devil they know rather than the one they don’t know.

  13. 14 JJ Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    JAB

    So their only option (as they see it) is prorogation, even though it burns through their remaining political good will with the electorate like a Kuwaiti oil field and contributes to the sense that Ottawa isn’t getting things done/is not responsive to the needs of the Canadian people.

    You might be overestimating our ability to express our goodwill or lack thereof at the ballot box 😉 Canadians like to grumble about how we’re getting fucked by our government, but it seems to take fucking of catastrophic magnitude to motivate us to throw out the current crop of bums and usher in a new one.

    I read somewhere that when parliament is on some kind of recess, their approval ratings go up, and I think that might figure in this proroguing manoeuver. Harper didn’t really suffer last time he did it, IIRC.

    ETA – Your observation about the opposition is correct. Harper doesn’t have that much to fear from them, IMO.

  14. 15 Bleatmop Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    I’m predicting another 7 years of minority Conservative rules. It’ll take that long for the liberals to reinvent themselves. If they start now, it’ll only be 3 years before a Liberal government.

    Everyone needs to go from the old school. And the new school. They’re all completely incompetent, too worried about who is going to get to wear the crown (and be the new king’s henchmen) than actually forming substantive policy that is more than just reaction to the current day’s polls. They also need to stop being such pushovers and letting the conservatives define the debate, their leaders reputation (not a leader, just visiting), and their party’s reputation.

    The level that the Liberal are just like the democrats is uncanny. Republicans down south and Conservatives up north know how to define public opinion. The only difference is that the democrats had a gigantic gift called dubbleya that go them a free pass into office.

    It’s time liberals north and south of the boarder take off the gloves, grow a spine, and actually react to their counterparts. Not only that, it’s time they actually started shaping and molding the debate to their advantage.

    There, now that I’ve solved the liberals political problems, I think I’ll have a hero cookie 😀

  15. 16 J. A. Baker Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    I read somewhere that when parliament is on some kind of recess, their approval ratings go up, and I think that might figure in this proroguing manoeuver. Harper didn’t really suffer last time he did it, IIRC.

    What, the sentiment is that if Parliament’s not acting, y’all aren’t being fucked (as hard)? 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

  16. 17 Cornelius T.Zen Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Good morrow, all!
    What’s the difference between death and taxes?
    Death doesn’t get any worse when Parliament is in session.
    As they say in the Seals – BOHICA! – CTZen


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