Countdown: If the Tea Party wins, America loses

Olbermann had a few choice words tonight for disappointed Democratic voters who might still be planning to sit on their hands next Tuesday:

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Bill Maher had it right when he said “There’s a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy”.

 

13 Responses to “Countdown: If the Tea Party wins, America loses”


  1. 1 Brian Wednesday, October 27, 2010 at 8:18 pm

     
    Wow. These guys sound really dangerous…   I sure hope they win!

    With the tremendous grasp of reality that Olbermann has, maybe he should run. Of course, Chicken Littles like him get always handed their heads in elections, but it sure would be fun to watch.
     

  2. 2 croghan27 Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 3:19 am

    “…..Chicken Littles like him get always handed their heads….”

    OOooooKay – now if you’d translate that we would all know what it means.

  3. 3 JJ Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 5:28 am

    Brian – What, you don’t think the teabagger candidates are just a little over the top? Do you really want fruitbags like Carl Paladino and Christine O’Donnell anywhere near the levers of power?

    Look, I can understand the attractiveness of “down to earth” candidates that speak the same language as the electorate. (Most lefties laughed at O’Donnell’s “I’m You” commercial — I thought it was brilliant.) But there’s a difference between giving the impression of being down to earth, like maybe a Sarah Palin, and being completely batshit insane or at the very least, totally unqualified for office.

    Or maybe it’s true that you guys don’t elect politicians, you elect game show hosts 😯

  4. 4 JJ Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 5:35 am

    croghan – I think what Brian is trying to say is that political hyperbole is rarely borne out by reality. (And it’s not the exclusive domain of either side: to read right-wing blogs you would think lefties have converted en masse to Islam and are preparing to launch JIHAD against conservatives.)

    Olby does express himself rather enthusiastically at times, but in this case it’s probably called for if that’s what it takes to rouse democrats out of their slumber this election cycle. It’s one thing to let the GOP win: quite another to let these tea party fascists take over. America is in enough trouble already.

  5. 5 J. A. Baker Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 6:39 am

    (Most lefties laughed at O’Donnell’s “I’m You” commercial — I thought it was brilliant.)

    Speak for yourself. I just thought it was a transparently insincere attempt to fake down-to-earthiness. That may explain why most liberals laughed at it, and why Chris Coons now has an 11-point lead in the latest Rasmussen poll.

  6. 6 Cornelius T. Zen Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Good morrow, all!
    As numerous sources have put it: Those who do not learn from the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.
    What aided both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks in their time was not the corruption of the existing regime, but the apathy of the electorate. Neither the Nazis nor the Bolsheviks represented a majority in their political outlook. They were simply the loudest and most strident voices in the mix.
    If you can’t make them love you, make them fear you.
    That worked for Lenin and Hitler. That is what the Tea Party is counting on – that America lacks the courage to stand up and tell them: That is insane, you are insane, and we will have no part of that or you. The Tea Party is counting on apathy and fear. It’s what for dinner. It’s their Breakfast of Champions.
    “Nice country you got here – be a shame if anything should happen to it.” What, you never heard of protection?
    Fuhgeddabout it! – CTZen

  7. 7 fern hill Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 9:48 am

    OMFG! I had no idea there are so many of them.

  8. 8 Brian Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 11:25 am

    What, you don’t think the [TP] candidates are just a little over the top?  Do you really want fruitbags like Carl Paladino & Christine O’Donnell anywhere near the levers of power?

    Yeah, they are a little over the top on some things, just as some of the incumbents are.  We don’t get the choices I would like for us to have.

    But the founding of our country was not premised on experts ruling us, but of citizen legislators.

    At least with this group we would have a higher percentage of people who understand economics.

    I am much more afraid of the ineptitude of some incumbents, coupled with the substantial skill of others at promoting a dangerous agenda.

    But, as I said, that really aren’t the choices I would like for there to be.

     

    That may explain why most liberals laughed at it, and why Chris Coons now has an 11-point lead in the latest Rasmussen poll.

    This is not even remotely true.  She torpedoed herself with her question of the separation of church and state in the Constitution.  Because of the timing of what she said in response to Coons, it sounded like she was questioning what was actually in the Constitution (when in reality she was just slow in saying “That’s in the Constitution?”).

    That followed by not knowing what was in the 16th and 17th amendments amounted to a really bad performance, and her numbers nose dived AT THAT POINT.

    In truth, it is not necessary to memorize any contract to implement it (and the Constitution is a contract), only to ensure that it is implemented.

    But the way you look on TV is much more important than the content of what you say, and those 10 seconds of TV probably finished her chances.

     

  9. 9 Brian Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 11:29 am

    What aided both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks in their time was not the corruption of the existing regime, but the apathy of the electorate. Neither the Nazis nor the Bolsheviks represented a majority in their political outlook.

    Though that is true, it doesn’t carry the weight it would appear to through your choosing just those 2 groups.

    Apathy of the electorate is responsible for the vast majority of election outcomes.

     

    What, you never heard of protection?

    Sorry, I don’t follow.  Could you clarify that one line?

  10. 10 Peter Thursday, October 28, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    What aided both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks in their time was not the corruption of the existing regime, but the apathy of the electorate.

    Who wants to be the first to remind Cornelius that there was no electorate in Russia?

    Cornelius, Hitler analogies are a gas and I respect your even-handedness in throwing in the Bolsheviks, but I really don’t recall either of them bamboozling the “electorates” with platforms about getting government off everybody’s backs. Have you ever heard the quip of the late Canadian (and quite anti-American) philosopher, George Grant:

    “The left is always predicting the arrival of fascism in America, but when the real thing comes, it always seems to descend on Europe.”

  11. 11 Cornelius T. Zen Friday, October 29, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Good morrow, all!
    Peter: “Who wants to be the first to remind Cornelius that there was no electorate in Russia?”
    In 1905, Czar Nicholas II convoked the first Russian Parliament, called the Duma. It was a group of representatives, called deputies, who were ELECTED by groups of peasants and factory workers. But, hey, according to Peter, there was no electorate in Russia, prior to October 1917, and, apparently, has not been since, either.
    Some time ago, (Saint) Ronald Reagan was heard to opine that the Russians did not have a word in their language for “Peace.”
    When I was young, and attended Mass regularly, one of the parish priest was Father Svoboda. He was one of the gentlest men I had ever met. I asked him one day where his name came from. He said, “My name is Russian. It means ‘Peace’.”
    The Tea Party are the Nazis and Bolsheviks of the 21st Century. Peter and Brian say they are not.
    Let’s see: Bigoted and disaffected followers – check. Loud, strident rallies filled with threats of violence against minorities – check. Intimidation tactics employed against opponents – check. Saturation of media with attack ads – check.
    A longing to return to glory days, when white men were men, and all others knew their place – check. Gott mitt Uns! – check.
    Looks, walks and quacks like a duck – check.
    Lessons of history – CTZen

  12. 12 Brian Friday, October 29, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Bigoted?   Not so much

    Disaffected?   Sure.  But again, true of so many that it hardly has any significance.

    Loud?  Sure.  Like every rally ever held throughout history.

    Threats of violonce against minorities?  Not so much.

    Intimidation tactics employed against opponents?  Not.

    A longing to return to glory days, when white men were men, and all others knew their place?  Hah!  Yeah, right!

    You really are living in a fantasy world — far more so than I had previously thought, I now see.  In all seriousness, without sacrcasm, I was surprised at the list you produced.

     

     

    It might mean nothing, but I put “Svoboda” into Babelfish, then translated from Russian to English.  Apparently (at least according to them) it means “Svoboda.”

    “Svoboda, a word in Slavic languages meaning ‘freedom’ ”:  a sentence found in a Wiki article.

     

    When did Ronaldus Magnus say this?

     

    Have you never heard someone say of a group, as an indication that they never act in a certain way, that they have no word in their language for that behavior?

    There are many turns of phrase like that.

    Another would be “filled with.”  He was “filled with wisdom.” He was “filled with rage.”  No one ought to take that to literally mean that they had gone to an all-you-can-eat that was serving wisdom stew, and that they ate until they could eat no more.  It’s a figure of speech.

    I know, figures of speech make it harder to follow along, because literal interpretation doesn’t sufficiently serve the purpose.  But try — it’ll get easier.

  13. 13 Peter Saturday, October 30, 2010 at 4:06 am

    Cornelius, you remind me of those old-style leftists from the thirties who would hang around new-left demonstrations in the sixties. While everyone else screamed about stopping the war, kicking whitey in the gonads and being free to get laid, they would shout: “Right on, and the workers must overthrow the bosses and take over the means of production!”


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